octilliondollars
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Renovating basement into studio
#1032936 - 10/02/13 08:36 PM
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I'm am moving to a new house where I will use the main basement room for my film
composition studio. The dimensions of the room is 9.5m by 3.6m. I will be replacing the
walls and flooring. The room has a dropped ceiling. Because of the large dimensions
of the room, I'd like to split it into a live room and a control room by building a wall.
I'll do research on the best wall do stop sound going between the rooms and I'll probably
has 2 heavy doors setup. My main concern is the dropped ceiling and how I can stop sound
from travelling over the wall via the dropped ceiling. I was thinking of building a
second ceiling below the dropped ceiling but the ceiling is very low so I think adding
anything would make it way too low. I'm a violinist so I need some room above me when I'm
playing. I appreciate anyone's reply.
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James Perrett
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Re: Renovating basement into studio
[Re: octilliondollars]
#1032939 - 10/02/13 09:09 PM
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Is the dropped ceiling separate from the floor above and, if so, is there any way that you
could replace the ceiling? Alternatively, you could remove the underside of the existing
ceiling, mount joists between and slightly below the existing joists and then mount a
layer or two of plasterboard on these joists to form a separate structure from the
existing floor. James.
-------------------- JRP Music - Audio Mastering and Restoration.
http://www.jrpmusic.net
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_ Six _
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Re: Renovating basement into studio
[Re: octilliondollars]
#1032963 - 11/02/13 01:16 AM
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You don't say where you're from but I looked into converting my UK basement and decided it
was a bad idea.
Watch out for the slightest bit of damp. It will destroy
instruments and studio equipment without mercy and is really bad for your health. If the
walls haven't had a lot of money spent on tanking, or if the existing system is old, then
you're asking for trouble.
Basements are difficult to sound proof and
acoustically treat too. To stop sound getting out you need to build a room within a room,
that is totally air tight and isolated from the structure with a floating floor and
ceiling. For that you need lots of insulation, framing, resilient bars, a double layer of
plasterboard, barrier mats/ damping and a sealed heavy double door. Being airtight poses
problems for breathing so you need an acoustically designed ventilation system. Low
ceilings are notorious for being difficult environments to record and mix in.
The basement may not qualify as a habitable space and studio use can invalidate home
insurance. A lot of them are listed for storage use only. Are the electrics okay? Any
modifications to the building can change your council tax band and can cause problems if
you try to sell the place due to building regs (or problems for the landlord if he'd allow
it). More than a few people will need an adequate fire escape which might mean having a
second exit depending on where the main door is located in the house.
It can
be a nightmare.
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octilliondollars
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Re: Renovating basement into studio
[Re: James Perrett]
#1032965 - 11/02/13 01:18 AM
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There is a gap between the ceiling and the floor above. I'm not sure if completely
replacing the ceiling would be too expensive and difficult. How effective would the
plasterboard be? If I were to have a string section in the other room would I be able to
hear them? I was thinking that maybe there is a way to fill in the gap between the
floor above and the ceiling but I'm not sure what material I could use or how effective it
would be.
Gerhard
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Hugh Robjohns
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Re: Renovating basement into studio
[Re: octilliondollars]
#1032999 - 11/02/13 10:02 AM
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I'd also second _Six_'s cautions. Basements always have really major low frequency
standing wave issues because of the nature of the where they are -- LF has nowhere to go
becuase of the solid walls everywhere! So whatever else you do, you will need to install
large, serious bass traps and they will eat up a lot of your current floor space, quite
posible making the two-room idea unworkable.
Hugh
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octilliondollars
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Re: Renovating basement into studio
[Re: Hugh Robjohns]
#1033404 - 14/02/13 06:09 AM
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To fix bass issues I've seen 3 types of solutions. I could use any of them in my
situation. 1. The Auralex Lenrd foam traps 2. Panels which go across in the
corner (creating a triangle) 3. Making splayed walls (similar to the panels but
actually having the wall with that shape and having it filled with dense insulation and
maybe some light foam on the outside of wall)
Do you have any idea of what
would be best for my basement?
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octilliondollars
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Re: Renovating basement into studio
[Re: _ Six _]
#1033405 - 14/02/13 06:17 AM
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I live in Calgary, Canada which is a really dry city where dampness and mold is rarely a
problem.
In most Calgary houses the basement is the most inhabited space of the
house. My studio will be where a living room currently is so it does qualify as a
habitable space.
Right now between my studio and the room that I record in
there is only a thin interior door with an air gap underneath it so I'd be happy with any
significant improvement. It doesn't have to be great soundproofing.
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The Red Bladder
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Re: Renovating basement into studio
[Re: octilliondollars]
#1033410 - 14/02/13 08:25 AM
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Scramble
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Re: Renovating basement into studio
[Re: octilliondollars]
#1033415 - 14/02/13 09:50 AM
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Quote octilliondollars:
To fix
bass issues I've seen 3 types of solutions. I could use any of them in my situation. 1. The Auralex Lenrd foam traps 2. Panels which go across in the corner (creating a
triangle)
Foam and
panels won't do much to help with bass.
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octilliondollars
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Re: Renovating basement into studio
[Re: Scramble]
#1033516 - 14/02/13 07:56 PM
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Do you know if building the room with the wall behind the monitors in the corners being
perpendicular to the monitors with insulation would help? I'm not sure if I explained that
right.
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James Perrett
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Re: Renovating basement into studio
[Re: octilliondollars]
#1033582 - 15/02/13 11:32 AM
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Pictures and diagrams might help to explain things better. I've used splayed
walls in my last 2 studios although you really need to get an acoustic designer on board
if you want to use them properly. I've also used panels across the corners for bass
trapping in my current studio although it isn't quite finished enough to say how
successful they've been. James.
-------------------- JRP Music - Audio Mastering and Restoration.
http://www.jrpmusic.net
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octilliondollars
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Re: Renovating basement into studio
[Re: James Perrett]
#1033858 - 18/02/13 05:20 AM
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As of right now, I think that the best solution will be superchunks
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