sybil8
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Asus P4t-e Chip Upgrade problem Part 2
#117987 - 20/04/05 06:52 PM
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Hi
I'm having problems upgrading an Intel 2.6 400 512(SL6PP) chip on a p4t-e.Bios
sees it as a 2.6 but windows crashes. I get these errors (wrong bios update
cpuid=00000f29;in bios and page fault in non paged area when windows crashes)The Intel
2.6 chip is listed as working with the Asus board ,so Im wondering do certain chips work
with certain boards only?I have updated the Asus bios and reinstalled windows.Do I need
microcodes?if so where might I get them.
any hepl greatly appreciated
cheers
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Re: Asus P4t-e Chip Upgrade problem Part 2
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#118033 - 20/04/05 08:31 PM
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Sounds like an Intel D series BIOS up-date issue, is it a Celeron D ???
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sybil8
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Re: Asus P4t-e Chip Upgrade problem Part 2
[Re: sybil8]
#118049 - 20/04/05 09:02 PM
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no Its a p4
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Re: Asus P4t-e Chip Upgrade problem Part 2
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#118054 - 20/04/05 09:08 PM
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Quote sybil8:
no Its a p4
Call Asus.
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sybil8
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Re: Asus P4t-e Chip Upgrade problem Part 2
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#118064 - 20/04/05 09:23 PM
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do you have a uk number?
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Motion
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Re: Asus P4t-e Chip Upgrade problem Part 2
[Re: sybil8]
#118245 - 21/04/05 10:15 AM
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Hi sybil8....The Asus P4Te is 850 chipset and Rambus?It's a great
quality board and works beautifully as a DAW base.
Perhaps the following is of
some use.
Do you have the older chip you replaced or have you purchased the
board bare from someone?...anyway replace the old chip and see if she boots ok and runs ok
in Win.
As far as I know the cpuid codes are embedded in the bios
update(somebody can perhaps confirm this?)...seems odd that if the chip is compatable it
should recognise it ok(failing a gremlin during flashing)....no offence but you definately
flashed the right bios update?
One thing with the P4Te is that it supports
jumper free mode...still fairly novel at the time in that you can setup the chip
multiplier,core voltage and bus frquency via the bios menus.Please check these match
up...should be 100X26(quad pumped for the 400 FSB)...when a new chip is installed on these
boards the Asus can default to a safe settings so that things are not unintentionally
overclocked so these may not match up.
Whilst I'm no expert it may also be
worth trying to set the board into non jumper mode and manually set your multiplier and
frequency via the dip switches....you will need the Mobo manual...if I recall the P4Te had
a max manual setting of 24x100 so it couldn't take anymore than a 2.4 gig (but your 2.6
would still work ok just at the 2.4 max speed)but the bios updates may if I recall allow
new manual settings to account for faster chips that are not documented in the
manual.Obviously the jumper free mode will have the necessary clock multiplier for X26 or
beyond.If I remember about this that is.
As to your question re CPU
compatibility...definately yes...some boards will not support certain chips due to the
core voltage being either unavailable or socket type,there are other reasons also...but
the Northwood 478 pin 512k should be ok..the P4Te was designed to accomodate it from the
outset.
The Win errors....which OS are you using?If Win is reporting a cpuid
error I can only see this as occuring due to code being fetched by the processor for use
that is incompatible with itself...it's expecting to do its job then realises what it's
processing can't be done because the chip id is saying otherwise,hence it bombing
out...somethig along those lines anyway....anyone else perhaps elaborate what might be
going on here.
The aforementioned may not make a blind bit of difference but
worth checking anyway...after all if the bios flash is not corrupt and the cpuid is there
and ASUS say it's ok...then there is possibly something going on with the OS that may be
causing the crashes...have you got all the latest updates for your OS.
Of
course....the reasons can as it often turns out with computers be related to something
extremely simplistic(some daft little update from somewhere or a missed setting and
nothing to do with the above...or a bug from the manufacturer)...but if that's the case
finding what turns out to be a simplistic solution is the hardest problem of all and the
prescription to the problem is usually in my experience discovered by way of an another
error. 
Hope the above may make some difference. 
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Re: Asus P4t-e Chip Upgrade problem Part 2
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#118263 - 21/04/05 11:04 AM
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Motion
thanks for that.Bios is now seeing it as 2.6 but windows is blue screening
with fault in non paged area 0x00000050(0xbc130178,0x00000001,0x80588f2e,0x00000001).
I tried the jumper free mode,no change.The old 1.7 p4 chip works fine so I think perhaps
its a chip incompatability as you alluded.Shame because its so simple to change the
processor, I thought it'd be a 5 min job,!
cheers
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Re: Asus P4t-e Chip Upgrade problem Part 2
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#118483 - 21/04/05 03:57 PM
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Normally if all goes ok it should be a 5min job...at least it's working
with your old chip....I hope you have not coincidentally got a ram issue...the p4te is
dual memory with pairs of same size and spec....page faults are often associated with ram
issues....unfortunately unless you have 4 of them you will not be able to do deductive
swapping out....it would be useful to do this just to see if win boots and works
stable.But it seems to work ok with your old chip.
Can you also see if there is
a motherboard chipset update and run this,that's if win can stay open long enough...you
should be able to get this from intels archives or a link from the bios site.
You have latest service packs for your OS?
Can you get into safe mode btw.
Sometimes other applications can do this sort of thing but it is a bit strange
with win throwing up the cpuid issue.
It seeems at odds that the bios is
recognising the chip correctly but win is not..you could try loading the bios defaults and
see how you go before anything else...failing this clear the CMOS memory of the bios by
shorting the pins(don't forget to put them back after)(leave for a good 15 mins,the time
people recommend varies) then load bios defaults....sometimes old info from your bios can
be left hanging around and be confused with the new bios info after a flash...in this case
the all important cpuid code info.
Worth a go anyway.
Is it
possible you have been given a different chip mistakenly by the vendor from the same
family that is not compatible at this point with the bios...I would find this unlikely but
worth checking...I know the p4te is a few years old now but if you have an 800fsb
prescott....I'm not sure...but it is obviously voltage compatable and runs ok...but the
bios update dosen't cover this latest spec of the P4 chip....when it should be a Northwood
B.
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Re: Asus P4t-e Chip Upgrade problem Part 2
[Re: sybil8]
#118588 - 21/04/05 07:27 PM
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Quote sybil8:
do you have a uk
number?
email Asus
{Set up this thing http://www.skype.com/ {Provided it works with UK English.}}
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Re: Asus P4t-e Chip Upgrade problem Part 2
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#118602 - 21/04/05 07:57 PM
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skype eh! is it any good?certainly looks interesting.
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Re: Asus P4t-e Chip Upgrade problem Part 2
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#118604 - 21/04/05 08:00 PM
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Quote sybil8:
skype eh! is it any
good?certainly looks interesting.
The protocol's a standard {proprietary {sort of}}
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:un
official&q=skype+protocol&spell=1
There may be better clients. I've not
researched it that much.
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