chris Barnett
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Akai S5/6000 sample playback types
#177033 - 03/09/05 12:45 PM
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hello,
does anyone know what types of sample playback are available with the
Akai S5/6000? For example, can I trigger a 10 minute sample (with a midi device) that will
play its full duration, even if it is being constantly retriggered, and not replay until
it has reached the end and is then triggered again?
failing this is there
anywhere i can get an online version of the manual (for free)?
ta, chris
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Re: Akai S5/6000 sample playback types
[Re: chris Barnett]
#177040 - 03/09/05 01:00 PM
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narcoman
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Re: Akai S5/6000 sample playback types
[Re: chris Barnett]
#177045 - 03/09/05 01:12 PM
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To stop a retrigger would not be doable within the s5000. If you could explain your use
then it'd be easier to see what you're trying to do
cheers
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chris Barnett
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Re: Akai S5/6000 sample playback types
[Re: narcoman]
#177080 - 03/09/05 03:14 PM
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I am using an eo-wave analogue to midi converter to create an interctive
exhibition.
the eo-wave takes analogue signals from sensors and can be
programmed to turn those signals into any kind of midi information.
all I want
it to do is take information from a movement detector, and create a note on, to trigger a
sample in a hardware sampler. (chose the S5/6000 cos they got loads o memory and I know
earlier akais and trust them...!!)
so picture this if you will...... person
walks into room, movement detector sends a signal to midi converter, midi note on plays
sample from sampler.
problem is, as the person is continually moving around the
room the note will be continually triggered.
I want a one shot sample that
ignores all other note ons until the sample has played out fully, then and only then will
it be allowed to accept another note on....
make sense... hmmmm
ta
for quick reply and hope you can help....
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narcoman
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Re: Akai S5/6000 sample playback types
[Re: chris Barnett]
#177252 - 04/09/05 03:02 AM
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okay, so it sounds like you may be building a movement sensor. I think the answer may be
more in putting a flip flop status in your movement sensor that is reset by the end of the
sample. if not then i really cant think of a way inside a 5000. Thought of writing a
little program instead and running on a pc?
cheers
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chris Barnett
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Re: Akai S5/6000 sample playback types
[Re: narcoman]
#177258 - 04/09/05 05:12 AM
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Am going to use an existing motion detector (like used in a house burgler alarm)
with the eo-body, which turns sensor signals into midi signals. http://www.cycling74.com/products/eobody.htmljust need to
be sure that I can get the right playback mode from the sampler. I am hoping aswell
that maybe a constant signal input from a motion detector can be interpreted as a hold
note on and that when the movemen stops, only then is a midi note off transmitted....?! Cant use a PC because i need multiple sensor inputs into the eo-body, which will
trigger samples on seperate midi channels, BUT will output the audio to seperate audio
outputs so it can be heard on seperate speakers around the house exhibition. So its the 16
outs from the sampler that are really useful. Low cost is a big factor and a £400 S6000
compared to a powerful enough PC with a soundcard that has 16 outs is the ding dong. am very grateful for the interest and fresh ideas.... I think there are several
untried and untested ways to do this its just finding the right one and i feel I am
getting warm wih the eo-body. ps whats a flip flop.....
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chris Barnett
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Re: Akai S5/6000 sample playback types
[Re: chris Barnett]
#177260 - 04/09/05 05:17 AM
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PS yes it is called an eo-body rather than an eo-wave (which is the company
name)
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Re: Akai S5/6000 sample playback types
[Re: chris Barnett]
#177550 - 04/09/05 11:44 PM
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What about switching to monophonic mode and using a blank sample to stop the sound?
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narcoman
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Re: Akai S5/6000 sample playback types
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#177560 - 05/09/05 12:36 AM
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that might work, but i feel sure that would still multitrigger (you know - keep restarting
the sample). Perhaps messing with one shot and play to end my be the key. I'll try to have
a look tomorrow on the '5000
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Re: Akai S5/6000 sample playback types
[Re: narcoman]
#177666 - 05/09/05 10:46 AM
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It's pretty simple, or am I missing something.
I suppose it would be similar
in the way you'd do it on an S3000. Simply put the sample to 'play to end' so it gets
triggered and plays till the end. To solve the retrigger problem, put the program in mono
legato mode, that should do the trick.
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narcoman
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Re: Akai S5/6000 sample playback types
[Re: chris Barnett]
#178004 - 05/09/05 10:24 PM
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nope. retriggers.
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Re: Akai S5/6000 sample playback types
[Re: narcoman]
#178090 - 06/09/05 08:10 AM
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It does from a keyboard because when you hit C3, release it and hit it again, it will send
a note OFF message first which cause the sample to retrigger. Maybe if you filter out all
note-off messages using the akai midi filters if possible (they were there in the S3000 so
probably also in the 5000 series) , or another way to filter out those note-off events.
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Re: Akai S5/6000 sample playback types
[Re: chris Barnett]
#178422 - 06/09/05 07:32 PM
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thats worth a pop....
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