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Creating rhythms with audio clipping? new
      #19790 - 23/09/04 06:19 AM
I was wondering how to create audio clipping to compose rhythms (like Alva Noto or Sketch Show)? I was wondering what the best process was for creating random audio malfunction sounds such as these, as I find these types of sounds fascinating.


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Re: Creating rhythms with audio clipping? new [Re: cornelius]
      #19902 - 23/09/04 09:10 AM
You can use a thing like 'buffer override' from destroy FX - gives good results.


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Re: Creating rhythms with audio clipping? new [Re: Booster]
      #19966 - 23/09/04 09:56 AM
The real Cornelius would know plenty of ways...

You've posted in the PC forum, so I'm assuming you're using software. How about automating a distortion plugin? Perhaps feeding a rhythm into Peak Freak to create some Midi data, and converting that into on/off messages for either a plugin, or some outboard?

Plenty of ways, but your message is a bit confusing, as you say you want to create rhythms, and then say that you want randomness...


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Re: Creating rhythms with audio clipping? new [Re: Chock]
      #20030 - 23/09/04 10:53 AM
rythms can be strict tempo or random; random rythms are particularly useful in large group arrangements; a piece of music can start with a rythm which is per se a limitation or a rythm can emerge from the sound values as in much contemporary jazz; an example might be the problem of making digital rythms swing as compared to the basie orchestra who were able to play on the verge of rythmic collapse thus creating subtle unpredictabilities & maintaining rythmic interest.
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Re: Creating rhythms with audio clipping? new [Re: cornelius]
      #20045 - 23/09/04 11:04 AM
try these free plugins they sound like they might do some of the things your interesed in http://sounds.wa.com/software.html
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Re: Creating rhythms with audio clipping? new [Re: giles]
      #20124 - 23/09/04 11:56 AM
{Nice for generating loops too}

You just want occasional crunches? You want real rythmns with sounds that are clipped?

Personally, I'd set up some rythmns {quicky midi drumloops} in a simpleish synth like "The Devil Inside" from here http://www.uv.es/%7Eruizcan/p_vst.htm {also Ellottronix and much of the stuff on their beta page} then use, probably, an overdrive, well... here:

This is cool:
http://www.kvr-vst.com/get/641.html

:} This thing is evil:
http://www.kvr-vst.com/get/712.html

This is essential:
http://www.audiomelody.com/index.php?/melodic/downloads/plug_ins/blood_ove rdrive

Then, knowing me {and so as to maximize ear damage} I'd have to use these:
http://www.grmtools.org/quicktour/qtclassicrtas/reson.html
http://www.grmtools.org/quicktour/qtclassicrtas/combfilters.html

Maybe this:
http://www.grmtools.org/quicktour/qtclassicrtas/pitchaccum.html

You might check out endorphin, cyanide, tobybear's silverbox { http://www.tobybear.de/p_monsterbag.html } and for maximal violence... Revalver http://www.alienconnections.com/products.htm is essential

You might want to set up a gate or a limiter so as to have a little better control...

{I can also recommend vfractal and vlogic distortion tho' I can't seem to find links to them anywhere.}

For random... you can use Ellottronix above, try out some really long delays, generate the loops from a fractal program, etc...

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Re: Creating rhythms with audio clipping? new [Re: cornelius]
      #20263 - 23/09/04 01:26 PM
If you are getting rhythms out of noise files, Dominion can be useful for bringing out beats. Kind of a transient tool.

I'm not really a glitch kind of guy but I find that drum loops sound better with multiband distortion so each sound gets it's own treatment. I expect broken loops would benefit as well. The one in Cubase does it for me but there are plenty of others.

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Edited by britney (23/09/04 01:30 PM)


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Re: Creating rhythms with audio clipping? [Re: britney]
      #20639 - 23/09/04 07:53 PM
a trick i like to use is to stick a loop crackly clipped or otherwise into a crackle reducing plugin, eg waves crackle and just keep the difference bit ie just what you are removing. play with the threshold and cut to suit

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Re: Creating rhythms with audio clipping? new [Re: Paradigm X]
      #20660 - 23/09/04 08:54 PM
yes, you can do the same thing with stienbergs declicker;
set your thresholds click on audition & record that instead of the main audio. you can also use the deplopper to pick up some low frequency sounds at the same time.
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Re: Creating rhythms with audio clipping? new [Re: giles]
      #20825 - 24/09/04 01:05 AM
You might check here:

http://www.sonicspot.com/samplerestorers.html

...and here in particular... http://www.sonicspot.com/denoise/denoise.html

...If you want to mess with noise. D/Noise will process large audio files very fast, will run multiple instances, is free and turns out some massively cool stuff.

{Can't forget here or my favorite dnoiser intune either. Intune takes a bit of practice but you can get it to turn white noise into symphonies if you spend some time with it.

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