This is something Djs use to do in the 70s with Tape. Take a straight forward record and make an extended version by looping some sections a few times and adding a few extra bits.

What is the best of doing this in Cubase SX? I could use an audio editor like Wavelab / sound forge to slice up the file into differnt sections but that seems rather fiddly. I can recall there was a way of doing this in Vst 5 by chopping up the arrangement without actually cutting up the audio file. Was it using something like Q points?

I know that SX allows one to do things that ReCycle can do although I still prefer using reCycle for this sort of thing..

This is probably somthing in the manual on this so if someone knows then just point me to relevant section.

Many thanks.

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"Never put a recording studio in your home, it is a black hole into which you can pour unlimited amounts of money" Pete Waterman.

The simplest way to do this in Cubase is very easy indeed:

Put your audio file on a track in the project window.

If the track has a steady tempo, it'll make life a lot easier if you set the project tempo to match the file, then the bars and beats in Cubase will match the real bars and beats of the file. There are several ways to set the tempo.

Click the button near to top to switch snapping on. Set the snapping value to bars or beats (which ever is easiest to work with).

Use the scissors tool to cut the file into the sections you want to work with.

Drag the sections around the page to arrange them as you wish. A handy hint is that holding down ALT as you drag will create a new copy of the clip you're dragging.

None of this editing affects the original audio file.

SX3 has a new feature which allows you to define sections of a song like Chorus, Bridge etc and set a play-order, which will make this even easier, but if you're working on a single stereo file, it's dead easy as it is.

Matt

Thanks Matt.

I knew it was realtivly easy and straight fwd, just could not rememeber how to do it.

I assume that once I have the new arrangement I can create a new audio file of the new arragment?

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"Never put a recording studio in your home, it is a black hole into which you can pour unlimited amounts of money" Pete Waterman.

Yes, just like mixing down any other song in Cubase, via the Export/Audio Mixdown menu option.

A couple more tips that might help:

If you're setting the tempo of the project to a fixed tempo, go to the transport bar and select Fixed rather than Tempo Track.

Once you've got the tempo matched, switch off snapping and shift your audio file along until the first proper downbeat is right on the start of a bar. Then switch snapping back on. Then the bars/beats in the project will match the bars/beats of the track properly.

Matt

Is it me or is SX a lot more difficult to create loops with than wavelab?

What I like doing sometiems is creating a smooth loop from parts of a track. In wavelab this is realtively easy to do, highlight the section to loop an dclick the loop pllayback button. The difficult part is choosing the begining and end of the loop so that the join is not noticeble. Wavelab allows me move the start and end points in real time while the loop plays.

With cubse I haev to set the region to loop the match the region in the audio track. I spent ages on friday trying to loop a bit of atrack that in wavelab was done in minutes.

Now, I could chop up the track in wavelb and then piece it back together in SX but this is frought with problems.

Am I missing something, or is there a feature like this in SX that I ned to read up on. Do I have to delve in to that pile of papers called the manual. if so, where abouts?

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"Never put a recording studio in your home, it is a black hole into which you can pour unlimited amounts of money" Pete Waterman.

figureed it out. use the loop mode in the audio editor. that way I can adj the being and end of the section to what I want.
still easier in wavelab....

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"Never put a recording studio in your home, it is a black hole into which you can pour unlimited amounts of money" Pete Waterman.