Right,
ummm embarrassing post coming up here!
I looked at the word 'Neumann' the other day and thought....hmmm I wonder if I’ve been pronouncing it properly.
I’ve realised that whenever I’ve said Neumann I seem to get funny looks, there is no way that that many people hadn’t heard of Neumann!! OK so how the hell is it pronounced?? I confronted my mum (she's never heard of them but she's a copy editor so I thought good place to start!!), she pronounced it "now-mann" (not how I pronounce it!!)...... this got me thinking further, it could be any of "now-mann", "ner-mann", "new-mann", "ney-mann", "nor-mann!" and now I’m just a "confused-mann"
I have been pronouncing it "new-mann" for as long as I can remember and thus far no one has directly said....ummm its pronounced ".......", so my long and drawn out question to you people is, how the hell do you pronounce Neumann!!!!
This has been driving me gently insane for the last couple of days!
Cheers

Doug

(oh and please dont mock me toooooo much!) :crazy
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You are pronouncing it correctly as New-Man or at least thats how i say it. They do some very very nice microphones, especially the U87

Its "noy-man" - at least dat iz how zey vood say it in Germany

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already two conficting opinions!
(just to clarify, i am very familiar with the mics themselves, just wondering about their name to save embarrasment later on in life!!)
cheers again,
Doug

Zir Lurkalot iz raaaight! Germans would pronounce it noy-mann, with a short and sharp a. Or you could just write it on a piece of paper and pretend you're hard of hearing...

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Zir Lurkalot iz raaaight! Germans would pronounce it noy-mann, with a short and sharp a. Or you could just write it on a piece of paper and pretend you're hard of hearing...

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I myself have had trouble with this. A recordidng technology Lecturer pronounced it New- but a friend who worked in pro audio sales pronunced it Noy-
Bloody language !

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and while were are on it

Moog is to rhyme with vogue

But what about Neve?
Is it to rhyme with Peeve or to rhyme with Kev (as in Neve Campbell - her name rhymes with Kev - I think)

Whenever one of my foreign friends asks if they are pronouncing something correctly in English. I always tell them to ask a Geordie. You have to go to Inverness to get it perfect though.

What about Røde? I suppose since they use the slashed O it's a Danish or Norwegian name originally, and in that case it should be pronounced Rerde, where the 'er' is the sound found in 'merge'.

I guess the English would just say 'road', no? What do the aussies say themselves?

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I guess the English would just say 'road', no? What do the aussies say themselves?

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In keeping with tinny, dungie and stubbie - probably Roddy.

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What about Røde? I suppose since they use the slashed O it's a Danish or Norwegian name originally, and in that case it should be pronounced Rerde, where the 'er' is the sound found in 'merge'.

I guess the English would just say 'road', no? What do the aussies say themselves?

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Seeing as Røde like to use ‘NT’ in their mic numbers, I would guess Røde is pronounced as in ‘Rodent’

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Rode have a sense of humour.... Rode NT = Rodent, so I guess Rode is pronounced "road".

[edit]Bugga, shoulda clicked that submit button faster! WTG TRain

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Rode have a sense of humour.... Rode NT = Rodent, so I guess Rode is pronounced "road".

[edit]Bugga, shoulda clicked that submit button faster! WTG TRain

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haha never even thought about that before

Suffer all you brats xD trying to correctly pronounce foreign words... yeah you anglosaxon parrots buhhhh will be the target of laughs and humiliation when getting into a studio or shop and ask for a Newman(noiman...numan.. :S), a Ramirez nylon string guitar or Bartolini pincups.

The fact is that there is no point in being pedant, most people will understand you whether (ups... weather? wether?? agggg) you pronounce "newman" or as a German would say "noyman" as someone said before. In fact, English is quite more difficult to pronounce or read than many other languages (apart from very few exceptions, an "a,b,c..." will always sound the same) like Spanish (mine, Italian or German.

So don't worry, as I don't mind saying Shure, sure, shoo, Sennheiser, Sennhaiser, Ibanez or Ebaneth... .

By the way, for all who want to know the correct pronounciation (a bit difficult to translate on "English way of writing" without phonetic symbols)

Ramirez---> Ra (like Sun God) - me - reth(like in wealth)
Bartolini-> Bart (with the "r" sound) - oli (oligophenic)
ni

For all who want more details....

In Spanish and Italian vocals are always pronounced the same whether they are in diphtongs, triphthongs or not:

a --> similar to gut, cup
e --> similar to bet, pet
i --> similar to si-mi-lir :P
o --> similar to cop, top
u --> similar to put, bush

German is the same, except when dealing with diphtongs:

ie -> long "e" sound like bee, tree
ei -> like like, Mike (Sennheiser)
eu -> like coil, joy, boy (Neumann)

ä -> the same as "eu" rule
ö -> like joke, coat..
ü -> like twins, quiz ...

Hope this can help, you Saund on Saund readers

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the very moment when one is longing to be perfectly deaf" (Oscar Wilde)

Neumann = Noy-man

Neutrik = Noy-trick

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What about Røde? I suppose since they use the slashed O it's a Danish or Norwegian name originally, and in that case it should be pronounced Rerde, where the 'er' is the sound found in 'merge'.

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If you're from Hull or thereabouts, the English pronunciation of "Rode" would be "Rerde" anyway...

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and while were are on it

Moog is to rhyme with vogue

But what about Neve?
Is it to rhyme with Peeve or to rhyme with Kev (as in Neve Campbell - her name rhymes with Kev - I think)

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Neve definitely like Peeve. Since I know someone by that name and that's how he pronounces it.

I always said Noy-man (learned a bit of German). They understood me well enough to sell me one.

TP.

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So don't worry, as I don't mind saying Shure, sure, shoo, Sennheiser, Sennhaiser, Ibanez or Ebaneth... .

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Aaaaaaaah but isn't Ibanez Japanese?

TP.

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There is a subtle difference between "having no form" and having "no form": the first is ignorance, the second, transcendance.

Another vote for 'noy-man' (neumann), 'road' (Rode), 'mogue' (Moog) and for 'neeve' (Neve).

hugh

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Hugh agrees with Hugh!

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Ibanez comes from Japan, was just a kind of joke, showing how it would be pronounced in Spanish (BTW, there's a common surname in Spain, Ibañez).

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"Musical people always want one to be perfectly dumb at
the very moment when one is longing to be perfectly deaf" (Oscar Wilde)

Well im from denmark.. cant really find an english word that sounds like røde does in danish... but merge is close.. but my guess is Røde dont know that either and since its their company i guess their pronounciation is correct...

since i knew neumann is german i've always said noy-mann.. funny thing is, at the same time i've allways called neutrik new-trik

I have always pronunced Rode as if it were spelt Roede in German. Kid, is this correct? Please advise!

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Hugh agrees with Hugh!

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As does Hugh.

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Good job I'm not on the Tonnmeister at Surrey or there would be two Hughs to deal with, which leaves most people feeling a little strange!

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There is another Hugh on the course, as it goes, and it goes get a bit confusing on occasion.

Having said that, you're probably him, and I've probably just made a fool of myself.

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Just had a peek at the Røde website. It says nothing about the name, but the funny thing is that the people who founded it came from Sweden where they don't use the slashed O, they write it Ö (same vowel, the 'er' in 'merge' or 'ö' or 'oe' in German).

Maybe Paul White might enlighten us?

Maybe they just used the slashed O because they thought it looked cool?

Wouldnt be the first time for a company to do that....

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that slashed O ( "theta"? as i recall ) is commonly the symbol used to indicated phase on consoles and Mic pre's that offer switchable phase orientation.



Perhaps Implying that the RodeNT range is sailing against the wind of typical mic manufacturing "phase"

or perhaps being phase inverted RodeNT s they're Not Rats?

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I have always pronunced Rode as if it were spelt Roede in German. Kid, is this correct? Please advise!

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yea i guess its what comes closest.. if you write danish on a non-danish keyboard you use AE, OE and AA instead of Æ, Ø and Å

Rødgrød med fløde, anyone?? (Danish joke to get foreigners to try to say that)

German's pronounced as it's written (according to my ole German teachers) - there's no problems with coughs and boughs, like English. So it's NoyMan for me!

Rode is road - as per how the dude from Rode pronounces it, in the video on their site, for the VideoMic.

Moog has to be Moog not Mogue, cos that just sounds so naff and inverse mockney to me

(And btw - Theta in Greek has the slash running horizontally across the 'O' bit, not on an angle, and is usually used for temperature related physics stuff isn't it?)

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that slashed O ( "theta"? as i recall ) is commonly the symbol used to indicated phase on consoles and Mic pre's that offer switchable phase orientation.

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I hate to be a boring git, but that's not the same letter. Theta is Greek, slashed O (I call it that because it's called oslash in HTML) features in Danish and Norwegian (and Swedish in the form of 'ö') alphabets.

Anyway, not really relevant to the pronounciation of Neumann, I guess.

Them Aussies tried to say "Roadie" with a posh English accent and fell short so they ended up with "Rode".

B.

No, I thought about doing the Tonnmeister but I'm doing Music at Royal Holloway I'm afraid.

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that slashed O ( "theta"? as i recall ) is commonly the symbol used to indicated phase on consoles and Mic pre's that offer switchable phase orientation.

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Theta (located between H and I in the Greek alphabet) is Θ (uppercase) θ (lower)

Fi (located between Y and X – and yes they are in that order) is Φ (uppercase) φ (lower)

The ø symbol doesn’t appear in the Greek alphabet.

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Them Aussies tried to say "Roadie" with a posh English accent and fell short so they ended up with "Rode".

B.

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...which brings about a whole new set of problems for Scottish engineers, particularly when doing live sound:

[Cue stacks of d&b C7s being loaded onto stage, amidst semi-set up microphones]

"Oi {'eu'??}, roadie; move that Rode out the road, eh?!!"



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One greek alphabet

http://www.keyway.ca/gif/greek2.gif

Closest to the slashed O is Phi

Oh and theta is (more often than not) used for angles

Oh and vote for noy-man, road, new-trik and moo-g (as in noise cow makes!)

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Edited by dave-lew99 (09/01/06 04:37 PM)

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Them Aussies tried to say "Roadie" with a posh English accent and fell short so they ended up with "Rode".

B.

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...which brings about a whole new set of problems for Scottish engineers, particularly when doing live sound:

[Cue stacks of d&b C7s being loaded onto stage, amidst semi-set up microphones]

"Oi {'eu'??}, roadie; move that Rode out the road, eh?!!"

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especially if it's a Roddy Frame gig......

Edited by reid (09/01/06 04:45 PM)