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Wurlitzer
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Cheaper PA speakers: KAM, Soundlab, RCL? new
      #27851 - 05/10/04 04:09 PM
I was passing by a local Disco Supplies shop today and noticed they had a lot of speakers in the window. As I need to get a PA system for my new band, I went in to have a look.

They were generally a good bit cheaper than PA speakers of equivalent wattage I've seen on Turnkey, DV etc, but I hadn't heard of any of the brands. The main ones were KAM, Soundlab and RCL.

Had I not heard of them, and the specialist audio places don't stock them, because they're all rubbish? Or is there something else to it? Anybody know if I'd get a decent result putting a 5-8 piece band through a pair of these. We don't need extreme power, just good decent sound and clarity.

One advantage is that I can go into the shop and try them out. But I don't know a lot about the subject and wouldn't be sure what I'm listening for.


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Re: Cheaper PA speakers: KAM, Soundlab, RCL? new [Re: Wurlitzer]
      #27882 - 05/10/04 05:08 PM
In my experiences, it hasn't really been worth buying the budget PA speakers. In a pinch, they'd do for vocals, but I can't imagine they'd cope with a full band. The cheap, 10/12" cabs like those that you've mentioned seem to have a pretty honky sound, not much in the way of low end, and the high frequencies don't get dispersed evenly, which could be why cheaper systems seem to feed-back easily.

However, the situation would probably be improved by a decent, powerful amp - I've often heard cheap speakers with cheap powered mixers.

Have you checked out Smart Sound Direct? They sell at budget prices but the stuff is factory-direct and seems to be better than other cheaper PA gear.


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Re: Cheaper PA speakers: KAM, Soundlab, RCL? new [Re: Ben]
      #27906 - 05/10/04 05:38 PM
It would be a shame to be let down by your gear.

I band I know managed to pick up some excellent Cabs from the StageElectrics annual auction. I think its later this year. There are normally some amazing bargains to be had!

Have you thought about getting some old second hand gear?
I recommend building your own, but you end up spending far more speaking from experence!!!

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Re: Cheaper PA speakers: KAM, Soundlab, RCL? new [Re: Wurlitzer]
      #29316 - 07/10/04 12:40 PM
the rehearsal studio we use has the red carpeted soundlab speakers for every room there the ones with a 15" speaker then a row of bullets on them, dunno the model number for them im afraid, i put my td-6 drums through it and we put both vocals through them as well, they sound good and loud nothing special tho, but apprently they were only £50 each

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Re: Cheaper PA speakers: KAM, Soundlab, RCL? new [Re: Wurlitzer]
      #30812 - 09/10/04 11:29 AM
Thanks guys. Any more experiences of these brands would be welcome.

It's a bit of a minefield as I really know very little about this stuff, and decent PA speakers are not cheap.

I suppose I could go into the shop and have a listen, with a view particularly to the factors Ben mentioned. But I don't know how loud I'll be able to hear them, and the feedback thing worries me.


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Re: Cheaper PA speakers: KAM, Soundlab, RCL? [Re: Wurlitzer]
      #33460 - 13/10/04 11:00 AM
RCL were a widely used Italian PA speaker manufacturer who have been bought by Mackie. I understand that most of the Mackie PA speakers use RCL technology.

A properly designed DJ speaker may have a wider dispersion than a similar PA speaker but at this end of the market who knows whether these speakers have been properly designed.

I've been impressed with the Thomann Box speakers that have been installed in a local venue - they sound much better than cheap speakers used to.

Cheers.

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Re: Cheaper PA speakers: KAM, Soundlab, RCL? new [Re: James Perrett]
      #35628 - 15/10/04 12:39 PM
I think it might be RCF that are the Italian PA manufacturer.


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Re: Cheaper PA speakers: KAM, Soundlab, RCL? new [Re: image]
      #36963 - 18/10/04 11:31 AM
Yep - you're right - it was RCF I was thinking about so I don't know anything about RCL speakers.

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