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koediman



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SX3! new
      #3243 - 02/09/04 10:30 PM
it's here!

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Top-10 new features of Cubase SX3

Audio Warp: Realtime Time Stretching and Pitch Shifting offer extensive new audio editing and processing capabilities, including ACID® File support: loops automatically adopt a project’s tempo; audio files can follow tempo changes in realtime.


Intuitive Play Order Track for pattern-based arranging adds a new level of creative music editing. Divide your song into sections, and then re-arrange it on the fly. Compare alternative versions of your song and then convert them back into a linear form for mixdown and mastering.


New Inplace Editor supports ultra-fast direct MIDI event editing from within the project page. Edit MIDI events in context with audio or video.


New MIDI Device Maps / Panels support direct access to external MIDI hardware with user-definable graphic editing panels. Import VST Mixer Maps or create your own editing panels, even for the Track Inspector or the mixer’s channel strip.


User-definable Workspaces (window layouts) help organizing your desktop. Create and save a separate workspace for each step of the production process. Switch Workspaces on the fly, as if working on multiple computers or monitors.


Studio Connections “Total Recall” support (optional integration of Yamaha’s Studio Manager 2). The first step into a new dimension of software/hardware integration. This modular editing system builds a powerful bridge between the virtual and physical studio. Opening a project can recall an entire studio setup within seconds.


External FX Plugins allow for direct integration of external hardware effects processors into the VST audio mixer. Use your favorite outboard gear just like plugins – including automatic delay compensation.


Extended Freeze function for virtual instruments and audio tracks with added flexibility and improved performance. Freeze virtual instruments with or without insert effects. Then automatically unload the instrument to free up RAM. Freeze audio tracks with insert effects to free up even more CPU performance.


New part-based Volume Envelopes for direct control of dynamics. Fix level problems on the fly without wasting automation tracks. Then move events with their volume envelopes.


User-definable Color Coding for tracks and VST mixer channels provides more clarity and better orientation – especially in complex projects.




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Dave B



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Re: SX3! new [Re: koediman]
      #3274 - 02/09/04 10:57 PM
just out of interest, are there minimum and recommended PC specs available?


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koediman



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Re: SX3! new [Re: Dave B]
      #3284 - 02/09/04 11:05 PM
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just out of interest, are there minimum and recommended PC specs available?




there's a link to system requirements at the topright of the steinberg-page.

about the upgrade: the return of the mixermap is what i like most... they always seem to throw nuggets like this in their upgrades... you're just accustomed to not having it and then it gets available again and you just MUST have it.

Edited by koediman (02/09/04 11:06 PM)


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Stuart Holmes
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Re: SX3! new [Re: koediman]
      #3419 - 03/09/04 06:23 AM
Don't suppose anyone knows the upgrade costs?

Bet it's not cheap....

Stuart


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Clarksword
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Re: SX3! new [Re: Stuart Holmes]
      #3427 - 03/09/04 07:53 AM
Deep joy, SX3 and Sonar 4 out in quick succession. This is getting silly, I run both and it's getting prohibitively expensive to stay on track. I have already lagged behind on my Wavelab.

Might have to not upgrade or ditch one.

Glen


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Re: SX3! new [Re: koediman]
      #3464 - 03/09/04 09:08 AM
User manual available online, too:

http://www.steinberg.net/displaydoc_sb.asp?Product_id=2442&Langue_ID=2&doc type=236&templ=10&division_id=&loc=doc236

NOTHING about re-arranging plugin order. Which means they haven't fixed this really annoying feature that people have been complaining about since Cubase VST 3.6 FFS, and have been particularly vocal about since SX1/N2.

Nothing about any other bug fixes either.

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Hotblack



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Re: SX3! new [Re: Jez (mahoobley)]
      #3607 - 03/09/04 10:48 AM
sx 3 allready
id been using SL2 then i got a emu1820m card which came with a full version of cubase vst which im kinda getting into as ive been playing with 24 192 recording (mainly because its there) but sx and sl dont suppourt 24 192
i know im a fool to think it sounds good
but it kinda does
anyway i like the idea of entering a downgrading curve
I think ill wait for sx4


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Darclinc



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Re: SX3! [Re: Hotblack]
      #3662 - 03/09/04 11:12 AM
hmmm ... wonder what it costs ...

I know I'm a sucker but I want it ... badly

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Stuart Holmes
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Re: SX3! new [Re: Darclinc]
      #3680 - 03/09/04 11:19 AM
Quote:

hmmm ... wonder what it costs ...

I know I'm a sucker but I want it ... badly





Me too......


Stuart


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Darclinc



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Re: SX3! new [Re: Darclinc]
      #3687 - 03/09/04 11:23 AM
Found it !

http://www.arbitermt.co.uk/steinberg/products/cubase_sx3_upgrades.htm at £ 100 from SX 1 or SX 2 ... Glad I didn't upgrade to sx 2 then

Ok so who is gonna take the plunge ??

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Darclinc



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Re: SX3! new [Re: Dave B]
      #3689 - 03/09/04 11:24 AM
Quote:

just out of interest, are there minimum and recommended PC specs available?




http://www.arbitermt.co.uk/steinberg/products/cubase_sx3.htm#30

Here you go dave ...

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Chris L
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Re: SX3! new [Re: Darclinc]
      #3798 - 03/09/04 12:24 PM
What a joke. Another £100 for features most of us don't need. Colour coding channels is a key feature of the update is it? Clutching at straws (and our wallets).


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Dishpan



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Re: SX3! new [Re: Darclinc]
      #3828 - 03/09/04 12:34 PM
> Glad I didn't upgrade to sx 2 then

Me too

This really does look great, it's just about every feature I wanted. The biggies for me:

Editing of midi directly from the main arrange page (yes, this'll make things MUCH faster!!)

Support for external plugins. This will make working much easier for me, and all with full delay compensation. Class

Dynamics events back, but in a superior form

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I just really hope this release doesn't end up being bug ridden. I wish Nuendo had been updated at the same time, then I'd probably just have updated that.

Anyway, I'm in.


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koediman



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Re: SX3! new [Re: Dishpan]
      #3985 - 03/09/04 01:28 PM
very informative page about all the features can be found here

Edited by koediman (03/09/04 01:28 PM)


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Phred
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Re: SX3! new [Re: koediman]
      #4061 - 03/09/04 01:59 PM
But is there NATIVE support for Tascam's FW1884 control surface!?!?!?

Does anyone have the technical support phone number. I'm not a current Cubase user but I'm damn interested in it! The ability to use external compressors, etc. is REALLY appealing!

Cheers.

Fred.


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Re: SX3! new [Re: Chris L]
      #4068 - 03/09/04 02:05 PM
Quote:

What a joke. Another £100 for features most of us don't need. Colour coding channels is a key feature of the update is it? Clutching at straws (and our wallets).




So don't buy it then.

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Clarksword
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Re: SX3! new [Re: Phred]
      #4070 - 03/09/04 02:05 PM
What? External hardware with delay compensation - don't think that's possible, not automatically anyway. Part of the process is an enquiry the host sends to the plug-in to determine processing time, this is not a test tone or anything, it's code. So unless they are going to bounce a test tone in and check the response, it must be impossible (and how would they know if there was a pre-delay, or the box is a delay box).

They must ask you how long the loop is - which is no different to doing it yourself anyway!!

I would really love to hear how this works.

Glen

Edited by Clarksword (03/09/04 02:06 PM)


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Chris L
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Re: SX3! new [Re: Neil Wilkes]
      #4077 - 03/09/04 02:10 PM
Quote:

Quote:

What a joke. Another £100 for features most of us don't need. Colour coding channels is a key feature of the update is it? Clutching at straws (and our wallets).




So don't buy it then.




Does it sound like I will? Thanks for the constructive post, fanboy. Enjoy your fleecing.

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Dishpan



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Re: SX3! new [Re: Clarksword]
      #4116 - 03/09/04 02:33 PM
Glen

I presume using a ping IS how it works. Even if you do have to enter the values yourself (not PC I/O latency of course, the program already knows that), it's still a viable system for integrating external gear, compared to the current system where that isn't easily achieved.

At the moment I have to manually delay tracks when using outboard which is a complete PITA. This new system (if properly done) will be a HUGE improvement for me, similar to when full system-wide delay comp was first introduced.


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Matt Downing



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Re: SX3! new [Re: koediman]
      #4147 - 03/09/04 03:01 PM
Quote:

very informative page about all the features can be found here



Excellent link Koediman - very informative.

I gotta say I love the look of all these new features. So long as it's stable I think it will be fabulous and even pretty good value for money.

Matt


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Darclinc



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Re: SX3! new [Re: Matt Downing]
      #4217 - 03/09/04 03:53 PM
Think I am gonna take the plunge ... err next month or so ... spend way too much on toys this month already

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Re: SX3! new [Re: koediman]
      #4222 - 03/09/04 03:58 PM
They've just put the prices on the SOS homepage news stories


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Re: SX3! new [Re: Beelzebub]
      #4228 - 03/09/04 04:00 PM
Win XP only as far as i can see... is that right ??

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Clarksword
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Re: SX3! new [Re: Dishpan]
      #4269 - 03/09/04 04:24 PM
Quote:

Glen

I presume using a ping IS how it works. Even if you do have to enter the values yourself (not PC I/O latency of course, the program already knows that), it's still a viable system for integrating external gear, compared to the current system where that isn't easily achieved.

At the moment I have to manually delay tracks when using outboard which is a complete PITA. This new system (if properly done) will be a HUGE improvement for me, similar to when full system-wide delay comp was first introduced.




Kris

I cannot see it working a ping system - if you are sending into a delay line it will misinterpret the delay as being a processing delay. It's gonna have to be manual in the first instance and then auto once you have defined your delays.

I'd like to see the technicals is all.

Glen


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Re: SX3! new [Re: Clarksword]
      #4921 - 04/09/04 05:53 AM
You could just turn up the dry signal on the delay. SX will probably just take the 1st ping back as the latency. ONce its set you could change to 100%wet if you need to.

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Re: SX3! new [Re: britney]
      #5012 - 04/09/04 11:54 AM
Dammit!! I missed out on the £10 upgrade date by 3 days!!!

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Re: SX3! new [Re: Stevedog]
      #5780 - 05/09/04 02:51 PM
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Win XP only as far as i can see... is that right ??




Yeah, Steinberg is saying that they will only "support" installations under WinXP. According to one of the moderators, the upgrade will install under Win 2000 just fine, Steiny will only support XP installations. He went on further to say that it was not tested at all under W2K, only under XP.

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Re: SX3! new [Re: Doublehelix]
      #5862 - 05/09/04 06:10 PM
Anyone seen any crossgrade prices yet? It looks more useful to me now than the latest Sonar upgrade.


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Darclinc



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Re: SX3! new [Re: Alex Harper]
      #5933 - 05/09/04 08:55 PM
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Dammit!! I missed out on the £10 upgrade date by 3 days!!!




Bummer Alex ...

Same thing happened with me and SX 1 - 2 upgrade ...

Maybe give them a bell, put on the sad face and see if you can get it for a tenner anyway ??

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Re: SX3! new [Re: Darclinc]
      #7718 - 07/09/04 02:59 PM
Intuitive Play Order Track for pattern-based arranging is just a great new feature that should have been part of sequencing years ago already. I've been using Opcode's Vision for years and this was a standard way of working in that piece of software which I believe is very intuitive and effective for songwriting. Good move! Never understood why this was not a standard feature...

Regards,



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Re: SX3! new [Re: koediman]
      #7823 - 07/09/04 03:45 PM
Quote:

about the upgrade: the return of the mixermap is what i like most... they always seem to throw nuggets like this in their upgrades... you're just accustomed to not having it and then it gets available again and you just MUST have it.




Hey Koediman, nice one for that espace link, very cool.

Are the mixer maps the things that used to be in VST3.5 or so where you could draw control panels with sliders and buttons and knobs etc? If so, I totally, totally want this. I wonder if one could create one which responds to say CC 21 and sends CC85? Would make using a multi-knob MIDI controller a whole lot easier.

It's looking like a must-have anyway with the ACID import and the in-place MIDI editing etc. Oh well, another £100. Ho hum.


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