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fx pedal for ambient
#44603 - 03/11/04 02:00 AM
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Hi' I am start using effect pedal for my music. hope you don't mind to give me some
idea. I was using software fx but it's dosen't seem right for me. so I think I want to
start with some of pedal fx which is necessary for my live setup.
1) I'm
looking for distortion, reverb, and delay effect. which one you guys think it 's good for
me. I'm do ambient and electronic music.
2) Do you think I better go with
multi-effect or reverb+delay rack?
3) I am interested in MXR-ditortion, Elector
harmonix-Big Muff, Memory Man, and Holier Grail...what do you think about these pedal?
Could you please give me more comparable stuffs.
thanks
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Stevedog
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Re: fx pedal for ambient
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#44616 - 03/11/04 04:20 AM
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The yellow MXR distortion is a classic... but i'd try the "GD2 Creamtone and the "Barber
"Black" overdrive units as well.. The GD2 has a gorgeous range and keps the original tone
of the guitar really well..Its not one for out and out distortion but has a wonderful
overdriven sound... The Barber Black sits between the MXR and the GD2 in terms of
sound... The Frantone range are interesting as well given your field of music..
the "PeachFuzz" and the "Creampuff" pedals might suit your needs perfectly... ye si know
the names are sad you should see the olours of them as well... however having tried them
in the USA they are seriously nice pedals...plus they do have a definite...Oooooooo where
did you get that from value... Reverb and echo wise... its more difficult... I
have a feeling an old tape echo like the rolands or even an echoplex might be exactly the
sound you are after... The thing is with tape echos unlike digital their restricted
bandwidth suits the guitar perfectly... the digi ones can be a tad strident... also any
stray artifacts with tape echoes tend to actually add to the sound whereas digital ones
just go click fizz and sound like they are broken... Reverb is more difficult
to advise on..pressed id say go for a second hand but clean Digitech Studio quad 4.. they
have some great reverbs on them and some other interesting efx you can chain together...
chorus flange etc ... all far cleaner than most foot pedals... The foot pedal
flanger IMHO is the blue MXR from the 70s... although instead of the 20-50 quid they were
5 yrs ago they are now more like 150-200.. even then, thats actually not that bad when you
consider in 1976 they were 220 quid new.. http://www.frantone.com/effects.htmhttp://www.indoorstorm.com/product_info.php?currency=USD&products_id=1574<
/a> http://www.musictoyz.com/guitar/pedals/g2d.phpCheers Stevedog...
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Hewesy
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Re: fx pedal for ambient
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#44860 - 03/11/04 02:08 PM
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Are you after the FX units for making guitar based ambience?
The basic effects
you need for guitar ambience are:
Octave up pitch shift Phaser/Heavy
Chorus Delay (longer the better for large washes of sound) Reverb
If
your after a rack unit something like the TC Electronic Fireworx or G Force will suit you
down to the ground, although there are plenty of others to try to.
As for the
FX units, the MXR Distortion + and Big Muff pedals are classic, however beware of adding
loads of gain if your building loops as it can rob to much from the sound.
The
EH Holy Grail is a nice reverb to complement a good amp, but for ambience it may be to
"light", and not give a strong enough presence.
You can of course get a few
pedals to cover the above, for example Boss and Digitech make a pedal to cover each sound
above, MXR phasers are highly touted (especially the origonals) and Ibanez make some very
individual sounding units for adding SFX.
Was it for effecting guitar or other
instruments?
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4TrackMadman
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Re: fx pedal for ambient
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#45517 - 04/11/04 09:38 PM
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The reverb off the HolyGrail is horrendous, I'd definitely suggest that you use a rack
processor for reverb. I have an old ART that has a very good spring algorithm and is
relatively cheap, the Alesis Microverb is also decent. If you want to go quality I've
used the TC Electronic G force - especially lush choruses and reverbs. As far as
distortions are concerned I recommend the Sans Amp TRI-AC. For the money ($150) you get a
Vox type, California (Mesa) and British (Marshall) voicings, all switchable and with
speaker emulation when DI'd. That beats MXR in my book.
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morphsville
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Re: fx pedal for ambient
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#45535 - 04/11/04 10:44 PM
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I'll throw in my suggestion for the line 6 delay and modulation stomp boxes. Both our
guitarists use these and we get some superb sounds out of them. More info here
The filter pedal is also very good for the slightly more unusual sounds and
our old keyboard player used to have one in his rig. No idea what the distortion one is
like though, we're happy enough using valve amps for that!
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Daniel_Zieba
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Re: fx pedal for ambient
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#52803 - 21/11/04 03:12 PM
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have a look at the line 6 echo stomp box....
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Mr Boules
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Re: fx pedal for ambient
[Re: Daniel_Zieba]
#55493 - 28/11/04 05:35 PM
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Anyone with thoughts on the Akai Headrush 2?
I see its has independent outs for
the four "heads" which could be usefull to me with my multiple amps.
Some
comparative analysis of likes would be usefull.
Say a recorded clean sound into
the latest crop of delays with tweaking and then a distorted sound,all in one
place,compare and contrast.
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Re: fx pedal for ambient
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#55859 - 29/11/04 05:18 PM
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You might want to take a look at the Hughes & Kettner Tube Rotosphere. It makes funny,
spacy, wobbly noises (intnded to mimic a leslie cabinet) and is often prized in ambient
circles.
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Hewesy
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Re: fx pedal for ambient
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#56101 - 30/11/04 08:44 AM
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The four outputs on the Akai only work in tape delay mode, where you can change the tape
motor speed etc.
I'm tempted to get one for the same reason, could be a very
handy 4 way splitter??
Funky shade of blue to..!
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Mr Boules
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Re: fx pedal for ambient
[Re: Hewesy]
#58655 - 05/12/04 10:00 PM
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I see since the other day the price has appreciated on this unit,wheras it was 100 its now
150.
They change its name to the Bumrush 2 no doubt.
I think they
know what they can do with their pedal then.
Isnt this a problem with the
retailers putting the manufacturers out of business or at the very least interfering with
cash flow.
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