Rhys Llewellyn
Joined: 24/08/06
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Using ducking for solo sections...
#471726 - 11/06/07 07:35 PM
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Hi.
Quick question...
In a musical situation, when my guitar solo
comes up, is setting up a ducking channel deemed a wise/acceptable thing to do, or should
I stick to automation?
I like the idea of the fact that I can perhaps leave
some side chains ready set up in a template on the lead guitar channels, so once I've set
up the kind of attenuation I'm after, I no longer have to get busy with the mouse and draw
in automation.
By the way, I've never attempted Side-chaining, but I've just
found an excellent tutorial on how to do it using Cubase SX2 and Waves C1, so I'm going to
try that now, but I'd still appreciate people's advice on whether this is common practice,
or if it's just for radio DJs and TV voice overs?
Thanks.
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Re: Using ducking for solo sections...
[Re: Rhys Llewellyn]
#471784 - 11/06/07 09:38 PM
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I think you have to ask yourself what a producer would do wth a mixing desk in front of
him/her. Would they set up a compressor with a sidechain or would they just push the
channel fader up? I'd go for the fader myself. It's what automation's for. Ducking is
really for those live uncontrolled moments where you don't know what's going to happen,
but when it does it needs to be heard.
But please experiment. It's a learning
experience - which can't be bad - and you may come up with an effect you like and can use
another time. There are no rules for things like this, and if there are, they can always
be broken!
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mysticjim
Joined: 29/11/05
Posts: 567
Loc: Bristol, UK
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Re: Using ducking for solo sections...
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#471832 - 12/06/07 12:14 AM
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I'd be well interested to know how you get on with this particular use of sidechaining,
I've started a thread on using sidechaining for drums, but this is an interesting aside.
I look forward to hearing how you get on.
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Rhys Llewellyn
Joined: 24/08/06
Posts: 466
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Re: Using ducking for solo sections...
[Re: Rhys Llewellyn]
#471841 - 12/06/07 01:12 AM
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Thank you both for the replies.
I'm also intrigued to know how it pans out, but
have already run into problems! lol. *Note my new thread on Twisted Lemons plugin...
You see, I've only just realised after many years of recording that instead of
making my lead guitar louder, I've had far better results recently in making backing
rhythm guitars and keys quieter. The lead guitar seems to sit so much better.
I
already have a master template set-up with everything ready to go.
My aim is
to make this template as "automated" as possible, so I can just work on getting my songs
to disk.
I've spent a lot of time working on my first album song using the
template, and have saved every aspect from panning, levels, EQs, reverbs etc... for all my
instruments. I figure, if I'm using the same sounds for all my songs, then they should all
sound nice and uniform, which will help hugely in the "mastering" stage.
But
yeah, if I can make it so that whenever I play lead guitar, certain other channels
automatically dip in volume then I'll go ahead and save that in the template too instead
of having to draw in automation. I have motorised faders, but have found that it's too
hard to accurately dip the correct db attenuation via manual automation (an oxymoron
there!).
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