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That is the first article I have ever read in that publication. Resolution - yes, Audio Media - yes, even SOS if someone leaves it lying around. But tape op? Sorry, it seems to be another "how to mic up a drum kit" magazine. That and interviews with people I have never heard of.

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Sorry mate I am going to have to pull you up on that one as well
I assume you are talking about the Special Drum Micing issue of Tape Ops - where Dave Mattacks talks about drum tuning and mic placement
Sorry that would be the "special drum micing issue"
Yeah and I have never heard of Bill Bottrell and Lincoln Fong either by name -but yeah I have heard their work and now know their names
And regarding the reviews - they are mostly reader reviews
And no - I do not work for Tape Op - it's just sweeping statements that piss me off

Quote Man of Style:

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By the way I don't do exploding, cool as a cucumber over here, some could learn from that.

Sennheiser MD441 = one of the best vocal mics I have heard ever, in fact chose it over a £3K valve Neumann mic in a shootout once : )

Ok youv'e made it clear you don't want it, I'm out of here, hope you find you way through the minefield without any tangible help from SOS.

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for a dynamic, my love , that IS a boutique mic.

And of course for a particular use you would choose it over other mics. If it was the case that there was an ordering of "bestest" mics then we'd all have a cupboard full of one particular mic. The point is, you said U87's where rubbish poop and could be replaced by a big list of budgets instead. Well thats is CLEARLY nonsense. A U87 has a particular sound then is tempered by varying degrees through its pre and general use. It is robust, dependable and of high technical quality. The fact that you dont like it doesnt change this quality. Some of the mics you mentioned are great for the price - but they are of variable quality even within another example of the same mic, with often poorer components and equally unstable sound due to marginally lower standard of design in the first place. I think SE mics are pretty much the best low price mics out there, but they suffer from slightly lumpy response. They sound of the price they are. I dont like BMWs - (apart from the Z4 coupe) - but i can tell they are well built good quality cars when i drive one. The U87 is a well specified high quality microphone (which doesnt cost the earth by the way - and the price i got my 87's for would not provide you with the money to buy your list) - not the highest quality, but of the price it sold for. Youre subjective dislike of them doesnt change that.....

see yas!!

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Battenburg to the power of 20 - said by Richie Royale in a moment of genius. 4pm. Wed 16th Nov 2011. Remember where you were....

What an utterly daft thread.

Deary me.

Right, a bit of a summary!

MoS, you probably feel a little bruised. Or maybe not.

We try above all else to be fairly authoritative on this forum - not necessarily perfect, but good enough. So if you start a thread saying don't buy a Neumann, buy a dozen cheapies instead, you ARE going to get a response.

Partly because we value our reputation for being fairly authoritative (and indeed fair, full stop).

And partly because it would be quite wrong to leave lots of people under the misapprehension that your world view on this topic was right when, clearly, you are in a minority of one.

This thread could have been locked or binned a while back. At least one regular forum member has suggested we just bin YOU! It is a credit to SOS and this forum that we've let it play out and not done any of that (I suggest).

You're welcome as a member, and you're as entitled as anyone to express your views, within forum rules (which you have).

If you think we've been a little harsh, try the same opening post on say Gearslutz or some of the other pro-audio forums, and see if you last the day. Then judge us.

Meanwhile, here's to debate.

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Dynamite with a laser beam...

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The point is, you said U87's where rubbish poop

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Can you quote me where I said this?

No, so don't fabricate things to make your replies more interesting than they actually are please.

This is why I have difficulty in taking some people
seriously on forums. Cause half have not even bothered to read what has been said and simply make things up in there own mind.

I said that a U87 is not worth the money these days compared
to owning the array of suggested (not definitive list) mics
where you can hardly tell the difference unless you need
specifically to impress clients.

Well Matt P if you think it's unpalleteable go and browse another thread, why even waste your precious time posting?

When oil is being poured on troubled waters, it might be best to go with the flow rather than randomly abuse fellow members.

Unless a ban is what you crave.

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Dynamite with a laser beam...

I think this thread has run it's course.

It's definitely used it's share of bandwidth.

I'm locking it.