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Old German mains plug wiring - Red Black Grey cable - red earth?
#488717 - 19/07/07 05:23 PM
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Just replacing a mains cable on a Binson PE603T I bought from Germany recently- The mains
cabling is coloured red, black & grey. Can anyone advise which way I should wire the UK
plug please? The red cable appears to be the earth. Can't find anything on the web to
confirm and don't want to risk getting it wrong!
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Re: Old German mains plug wiring - Red Black Grey cable - red earth?
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#488719 - 19/07/07 05:34 PM
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How was it wired before the replacement? I'm assuming you are looking at the old
cable/plug..
Any chance you can buzz out the earth wire to chassis with a
meter?
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Re: Old German mains plug wiring - Red Black Grey cable - red earth?
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#488720 - 19/07/07 05:42 PM
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If only I could see- the old plug was a sealed unit that I can't get into.
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Re: Old German mains plug wiring - Red Black Grey cable - red earth?
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#488724 - 19/07/07 06:04 PM
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That should be red-live, black-neutral and grey-earth, but that unit was sold in the days
of the German 'Klassische Erdung' (classic earthing) and therefore neutral and earth wre
regarded as the same thing. You are going to have to test it.
Something is not
right here, because that colour coding did not exist in the 70's when the Binson was sold.
That colour coding is from the 40's and early 50's.
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Re: Old German mains plug wiring - Red Black Grey cable - red earth?
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#488728 - 19/07/07 06:11 PM
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Yes, it seems odd. I've just cut my way into the sealed plug and red is indeed earth, with
black and grey as the live & neutral.
It
may be the plug is older than
the unit- it's a bakelite type material, so someone's added a newer cable at a later
date.
I'm going to replace the whole cable with a new UK one and wire it up with
yellow/green earth and red & black live/neutral which should be ok...
Edited by ainternational (19/07/07 06:11 PM)
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Re: Old German mains plug wiring - Red Black Grey cable - red earth?
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#489247 - 20/07/07 07:19 PM
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Quote ainternational:
I'm going
to replace the whole cable with a new UK one and wire it up with yellow/green earth and
red & black live/neutral which should be ok...
No! If its a new UK one then it will be brown for live and blue for
neutral. Red and black for 2- and 3-core mains cables went out ages ago. Use the wrong
colour cable and you could be prosecuted if someone later hurt themselves as a result.
It's very unlikely I know, but it's always better to play safe.
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Re: Old German mains plug wiring - Red Black Grey cable - red earth?
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#489284 - 20/07/07 08:40 PM
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Ok, well-spotted. That was a careless bit of typing. The new cable is as it should be. Not
planning on letting this go anywhere else anyway (save for a check-up with my tech) as
I've been after one for a while. Just got to make up a splitter box as bizarrely the
in/out is shared on a 1/4" stereo jack socket.
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