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Logic and Mac FAQ threads......
      #49416 - 13/11/04 11:53 PM
Hi Peeps.
In response to frequent requests and suggestions, I'm aiming to set up a Logic FAQ, and a Mac FAQ as sticky threads at the top of this forum... and eventually maybe turn them into a dedicated area as per the PC.

Sadly, I don't really document all the questions I answer here and elsewhere, or for clients, so I'm having trouble deciding what qualifies as an FAQ question....

SO..

Requests and suggestions please !

I'll sort through them, and compile a list for Logic, and a list for Mac OS X, and maybe one for OS9 and before (If my failing memory can remember all the answers for that lot..... )

Then Between the resident mac heads and logic guru's , We'll compile a list of answers and stick the lot up for people to peruse in times of grief.

I know what number one in the logic FAQ is going to be though.

Logic FAQ answer 1) NEVER EVER have the XSkey inserted during the install process. in @50% of cases the key is buggered as a result. and nothing on earth will retrieve it.

So roll up roll up, get yer pet queries in here.

This thread will be stickied up so you all have the chance to contribute.... without it falling off the page....

This FAQ won't happen overnight though...... I DO have a life outside this forum!

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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #49452 - 14/11/04 01:50 AM
Q1) Can I use my Logic 5 PC files on a Mac?

2) Can I convert my Cubase PC files to Logic on Mac?

3) Do I have to buy a new copy of Logic, or will the PC version I've got work?
Can I crossgrade still?

4) I've heard Macs use AIFF files. Will it recognise my wav Files?

5) The Aplle monitors are out of my price range, Can I use a normal PC Screen?

OK, they might seem obvious but its a start.

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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #49466 - 14/11/04 04:08 AM
What exactly is Plugin Delay Compensation and why has it been taken away from busses in Logic 7?

It has been said that Logic sounds different from other DAWs, I thought in the digital domain this is irrelavent as everything is made up from 0s and 1s. Is there a difference compaired with others? If so, how/why?

Are there any differences (other than the obvious) in offline and online bouncing? Can offline bouncing harm the quality in anyway?


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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: E D]
      #49487 - 14/11/04 09:09 AM
I'm new to mac's are there any os tweaks I should do to improve the performance of my mac?


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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #49503 - 14/11/04 10:44 AM
How do I rewire Logic to Reason?
What's the best way of programming drums in Logic?
How do I use my hardware synths with Logic?


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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #49551 - 14/11/04 01:22 PM
http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/

worth a look at....


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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #49842 - 15/11/04 07:09 AM
Just wondered if there's a way to get my right mouse button to behave like alt + click, thus copying a part when I grab it? I have a logitech cordless jobbie and it just struck me how handy that would be.

Also, what are the key commands right at the bottom of the list for, for the controller assignment window ( which I can't find) - is that like a MIDI learn function for my midi controller and plug-ins, or is it something to do with a Logic control unit?

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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #49945 - 15/11/04 12:11 PM
I would love Logic to have some colour content in the Transport window when it is not in use. Just a simple GREEN circle around the Play button, and a RED one around record would save me a few mistakes made while stretching across to hit STOP and hitting record by mistake while playing, or singing live. Must get these spectacles checked as well !!!


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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: RoastBiff in The UK.]
      #49958 - 15/11/04 12:32 PM
that belongs on a wish list NOT an FAQ Roastbeef.....

711 , Not sure about logitech, but kensington's Mouseworks utility allows you to define keystroke functions for ALL the buttons on their mice.... this would allow exactly what you're asking for... it MIGHT work on your mouse as well as the Kensington ones... But surely logitech do something similar??

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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #50063 - 15/11/04 03:10 PM
yeah, sorted thanks Max.

My Logitech mouse now opens the mouseware app when I click the scroll wheel, and there I can change right click to be alt + click for working with Logic and back to ctrl + click for Safari - tabbed browsing.

This is great for when working on the arrangement of a tune.

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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #51772 - 18/11/04 07:47 PM
Once I have created an apple loop, how do i make it appear in the loop browser? Why can't I edit an apple loop in the sample editor? How do I turn an apple loop back into a non apple loop? When creating an apple loop, is there a way of making the apple loop a copy of the original instead of over-writing it? How do I name an apple loop? PS..the manual is rather poor when it comes to a full explanation of the apple loops function, Thanks

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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #52189 - 19/11/04 11:29 AM
OK Max, What about a Wish List, does Emagic have one, I'm sure Apple and 'Big' Jobs couldn't give a s..t ? ?? Salute.


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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: RoastBiff in The UK.]
      #52221 - 19/11/04 12:44 PM
RBIF

in every issue of sound on sound, in the logic notes section, there is a link for adding to the wishlist.

Max

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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #53330 - 22/11/04 07:49 PM
I've recently purchased my first Mac and would like to know how best to optimize/ partition for audio.

thanks


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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #54431 - 25/11/04 11:54 AM
How to optimise audio files (ie. get rid of unused bits of file to save HD space) in LE6? Had this facility in Logic3.5 - where'd it go? (I suspect the answer is Logic Pro)


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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Bal]
      #55150 - 27/11/04 12:48 PM
anyone used the distribution audio thingy using firewire? also, is it really true you have to use a G5 (isn't that because it's got gigabit ethernet?) Why can't I use my old G3 imac?


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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #55637 - 29/11/04 06:46 AM
Hey, SOS: why not a short article on setting up a Powerbook for audio use? A few articles have referred to it (e.g. comparing instances of Platinumverb that can be run vs using a dual G), but I don't recall specifics....

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In the meantime, here is essential reading for setting up audio on OS X:

http://emusician.com/mag/emusic_tracking_big_cats/

Same author contributed to the following thread over at OSXAudio.com:

http://www.osxaudio.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12004

These should definitely get you headed in the right direction....

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BTW, the node thingie only works with G4's and G5's....

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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Feefer]
      #55667 - 29/11/04 10:18 AM
yeah, that's what they say, but will I listen?


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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #60025 - 08/12/04 06:18 PM
Are all the types of Logic audio similar as to how many physical inputs and monitor outputs they can handle in a session?
I am interested as i need a program to record into with a motu 828 and be able to monitor all 8 channels.
Is Express the same as Pro for this? There used to be an educational version avaliable for £80, has anyone had experience with this?
I only need the program to record into, not mix in so it seems silly for me to pay out alot for the full version if the lower versions will do the job i need them for.
Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated,

Cheers,

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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #61308 - 12/12/04 12:48 AM
Any chance we can seperate the FAQ suggestions from the wishes and questions here? This thread is looking quite full, but it seems mostly to be questions that don't really fit as FAQ.

Perhaps there could be a screen by screen FAQ in the same way as Logic's key commands menu is laid out. There could be sections for PC-Mac switchers, initial set-up questions and even a section with Logic Instruments divided out into specific instruments.

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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Feefer]
      #62818 - 15/12/04 05:16 AM
Quote:

Hey, SOS: why not a short article on setting up a Powerbook for audio use?




Great idea!


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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Feefer]
      #68220 - 31/12/04 06:47 PM
Quote Feefer:

Hey, SOS: why not a short article on setting up a Powerbook for audio use? A few articles have referred to it (e.g. comparing instances of Platinumverb that can be run vs using a dual G), but I don't recall specifics....




Longtime PowerBook devotee Paul Wiffen wrote a useful article in SOS April 2004 called Macs On The Move. You can read it here:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr04/articles/macsonmove.htm

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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: tipex]
      #68222 - 31/12/04 06:50 PM
Quote paperclip:

anyone used the distribution audio thingy using firewire? also, is it really true you have to use a G5 (isn't that because it's got gigabit ethernet?) Why can't I use my old G3 imac?




You need a fast Ethernet connection to make this Logic Pro 7 feature work. Gigabit (ie. 1000-base T at least; 10 or 100-base T is too slow).

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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Forum Admin]
      #68232 - 31/12/04 07:12 PM
Quote Forum Admin:

Longtime PowerBook devotee Paul Wiffen wrote a useful article in SOS April 2004 called Macs On The Move. You can read it here:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr04/articles/macsonmove.htm




Hi Ian,

Yes, I read the article. Putting the long history lesson aside, there's only about (2) paragraphs at the end of the article that offer specifics (advice like "turn off AppleTalk": well, there's a bit more to it than THAT).

So rather than a walk down Mac PowerBook lane, I was suggesting a more practical and comprehensive article, with step-by-step instructions for optimizing a current G4 PowerBook running OS X for music apps... I see Martin Walker offering similar concrete advice for PC laptops.

However, it's kind of a non-issue for me, now: I found disparate sources of information on the Web with much information not mentioned in the article.

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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: tipex]
      #68382 - 01/01/05 01:57 PM
Quote paperclip:

anyone used the distribution audio thingy using firewire? also, is it really true you have to use a G5 (isn't that because it's got gigabit ethernet?) Why can't I use my old G3 imac?




actually it will work on any Mac machine with a fast ethernet, or gigabit ethernet connection BUT

your G3 iMac has about as much additional CPU grunt as the average Chocolate fireguard.

it'd probably struggle simply to run the Node App, never mind any worthwhile numbers of plug ins. Especially as there's no Velocity engine facilities on the g3 series/.


(I am writing this on a G3/450DVSE iMac BTW, so I'm not simply being snobbishly picky.)

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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #89482 - 17/02/05 07:08 PM
Hi Max, (long time no speak etc.)

Remembering when I switched to mac / logic, the first thing that would have helped tremendously would have been a simple tutorial on setting up enviroments, infact I may have a crack at writing one over the week end (if it may be of any use)

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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #92891 - 24/02/05 08:57 AM
I have a question:

You have an audio track. You want to replace a few sections with one good section. You copy/paste this good section into the gaps where the dodgy bits were. Fine, so far . . . Move the parts to the right place . . . So far, so good. Now, the frustrating part is that when using the finger to pull the beginning ore end of one part, all the copied parts move as well!.

I'm guessing it's because it is only one file on disk. All I can think of is to 'convert regions to audiofiles' which is a bit clunky.

Please tell me I'm a fecin' eejit and there is an obvious thing I've missed!

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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Guy Johnson]
      #92913 - 24/02/05 09:59 AM
Guy.

there are 3 "stages" if you like.

1) the original Region, all copies of it are literally simply the same thing played again, thus ANY changes to the original are also changes to the later renditions.

2) Convert to individual regions. at this point your finger problem is resolved. as each region is in fact a separate entity that happens to address the same audio file... however any edits of the audio file samples themselves will be reflected on all regions addressing that file.

3) Convert to individual audio files. at this point you can then directlky edit the samples without affecting other regions, as they are now all their own files.

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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #93244 - 24/02/05 07:23 PM
Max, thanks . . . just about what I was groping towards!

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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #99636 - 09/03/05 10:16 PM
Hi,

This is my first post so I hope someone can help.

I own Fxpansion's BFD Drum Module, it runs as a multi-out plugin in Logic.

My problem is that Logic only allows 16 outputs from a plugin, where BFD needs 17.

Currently BFD displaces the crash cym 2 and ride cymbal on the same output channel, but this means that you are not able to mix and add effects to them separately, because they're on the same channel.

Will Apple ever fix this issue?

There are many complaints about this from other BFD users on the KVR-vst.com forums for Fxpansion.

Please can someone help

Thanks

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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Ashley2005]
      #99646 - 09/03/05 10:46 PM
Ashley Check your PM's

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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #103939 - 20/03/05 12:13 AM
What exactly is altivec and what type of processors have it?
What is it that makes G5 processors better/faster than G4's?


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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: yorkio]
      #114202 - 12/04/05 05:40 PM
I am new mac user and a new Logic 7 user as well. I am also having trouble with the communication between logic and reason. I was able to rewire reason with logic and get the audio of reason to play with my audio files in logic. But, for the life of me, I cannot figure out how to record the audio from reason into Logic. Someone, please help me.


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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #126042 - 07/05/05 12:49 PM
Ooops, just pressed the wrong button and gave this thread a rating of one, it needs much more. Any way the question I was trying to put is:

Im a new mac user, In OS X is there a setting or preference you can make so that everytime you double click on a disk or folder it opens up in columns (or whaterver view is your preference) Also I second any questions about apple loops in Logic 7


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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: LimitedHeadroom]
      #137441 - 02/06/05 07:37 PM
yes.

your finder preferences...

in desktop finder, select the preferences menu from the Finder menu
(Finder>preferences)

Under the general tab, you can set what a new finder window command actually opens at (computer, documents, home, or any mounted drive etc)

and whether to always open folders in a new window, and/or open in column view , as well as the time delay in spring loaded opening.



Labels Tab allows you to choose label colours and names,


The sidebar tab allows you to define what is displayed in the left hand side bar of a finder window... which drives and special folders etc...


Advanced tab defines extension display , and search languages, and whether there are warnings before you empty the trash.


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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... Logic equivalent of playlists? new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #140419 - 09/06/05 08:34 AM
Hey, am hoping its okay to to post this question here?...

I cant for the life of me work out how to use whatever Logic's equivalent of Pro Tools' "playlists" function is (where multiple takes can be stored on the same track in the arrange window) i have scanned the manual, the pdf help & even the Apple Logic Pro training book. There must be a way, yeh?

Even with replace mode enabled i couldnt work out how to record over previous "takes" without either the previous take being audible on playback OR having to manually delete them completely!

Any advice would be gratefully appreciated

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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #143079 - 14/06/05 10:17 PM
Hi Max,

Don't know if you've got anywhere with your FAQ s
ite but I need some help. I'm still trying to get the following setup working:

Motu 896 (the old one) + latest MOTU drivers
Logic express
Max OSX (panther)
G4 Powerbook

I've set the preferences up so that Logic talks to MOTU but made no progress in actually recording. I plug my guitar into the Motu and firewire the motu into the Mac but it won't record anything I play. However I can play back itunes through the motu and if I change the settings I can record on logic through the powerbook's microphone...

Any suggestions or do you know of a beginner's guide to setting up?

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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... Logic equivalent of playlists? new [Re: HVR Recordings]
      #143206 - 15/06/05 10:14 AM
Seratonin.
logic does not work in the same way as protools.


It can sort of be worked around though..... but not quite in the way you describe.


Colnel sanders.

What kind of guitar?? As I recall, the 896 Mk1 does not have appropriate inputs for electric guitars (which have an output level not all that dissimilar to Microphones) so both the impedance , and nominal levels are way off the mark, and you would have such a low signal level you may not see it... never mind hear it... using an appropriate DI box (with high impedance input) and running this into an input switched to Mic rather than line should rectify this if that is the problem.
failing that, you also need to check and see which inputs are numbered what on the 896 Firewire drivers, in case you have the ADAT port inputs swapped with the Analogue inputs.

I'll try and get full replies out tomorrow, as today is the Wife's birthday, and I'm not supposed to be here

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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #157717 - 21/07/05 12:27 PM
This probably has been discussed before often, but searching the forum didn’t help me so your help is appreciated.

Although OS X has been my main platform for everything non music related my music was always made on an OS 9 machine. I’m going X and will be upgrading some main software and plugs (for instance Logic 6 plat to 7 pro and Kontakt 1.x.to 2).

I would like to know if it’s possible to open saved (OS 9) vst plug in-settings (presets) in the OS X/ Audio Unit version of the ‘same’ plug.

Also: when I’ve made an arrangement in OS 9 (logic plat 6) and will open it in Pro 7 in X, assuming I have all the X audio unit versions of the vst plugs I used in the OS 9 environment, will my song play back as before (are the settings stored and opened correctly)?

Is there any other upgrading issue I should be aware of (apart from removing the XS key upon installation of Logic :-) )?

Thanks!

Merlin.


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Re: Logic and Mac FAQ threads...... new [Re: Merlin]
      #157725 - 21/07/05 12:44 PM
Copy your entire OS9 Logic folder to the new machine, this will include all the fx settings and so on, as well as your songs (assuming you have them in there)

obviously you also need all the audio files and samples as well.

this ensures you have at least got the data to work with...

Logic's own plug ins are generally not a problem, but there are more hiccups with other plug ins... as long as you have the OS 9 Settings files, it's usually possible to grab them...

the other thing to remember is that Everything you have will need to be converted from ASIO or Direct IO to Core audio., or , if I recall correctly, in your case, form 1 PT rig and TDM implementation to a new one...

this is a bit of a faff, but more often than not , fairly straight forward.

I do have to say though., that logic's "update environment" option rarely works quite as you'd expect... it's one of the most infuriatingly inconsistent buggers out there...


It depends how much material you're going to want to bring over to the new system, But i'm afraid I'd expect to have to spend a day or maybe a few, if there's lots, going through the material and ensuring it all works right.... best to do that than find out in front of a client that something didn't work....
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there's also a gizmo called "logic preset converter.app " that is intended to assist in converting os9 settings into OS X formats.... sometimes it's necessary, sometimes not.... I don't think it exists in logic 7, but I have it for Logic 6, if you can;t find it and may need it, give me a shout...

Hope this not entirely cheerful reply is of use.

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