This probably has been discussed before often, but searching the forum didn’t help me so your help is appreciated.

Although OS X has been my main platform for everything non music related my music was always made on an OS 9 machine. I’m going X and will be upgrading some main software and plugs (for instance Logic 6 plat to 7 pro and Kontakt 1.x.to 2).

I would like to know if it’s possible to open saved (OS 9) vst plug in-settings (presets) in the OS X/ Audio Unit version of the ‘same’ plug.

Also: when I’ve made an arrangement in OS 9 (logic plat 6) and will open it in Pro 7 in X, assuming I have all the X audio unit versions of the vst plugs I used in the OS 9 environment, will my song play back as before (are the settings stored and opened correctly)?

Is there any other upgrading issue I should be aware of (apart from removing the XS key upon installation of Logic :-) )?

Thanks!

Merlin.

Copy your entire OS9 Logic folder to the new machine, this will include all the fx settings and so on, as well as your songs (assuming you have them in there)

obviously you also need all the audio files and samples as well.

this ensures you have at least got the data to work with...

Logic's own plug ins are generally not a problem, but there are more hiccups with other plug ins... as long as you have the OS 9 Settings files, it's usually possible to grab them...

the other thing to remember is that Everything you have will need to be converted from ASIO or Direct IO to Core audio., or , if I recall correctly, in your case, form 1 PT rig and TDM implementation to a new one...

this is a bit of a faff, but more often than not , fairly straight forward.

I do have to say though., that logic's "update environment" option rarely works quite as you'd expect... it's one of the most infuriatingly inconsistent buggers out there...


It depends how much material you're going to want to bring over to the new system, But i'm afraid I'd expect to have to spend a day or maybe a few, if there's lots, going through the material and ensuring it all works right.... best to do that than find out in front of a client that something didn't work....
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there's also a gizmo called "logic preset converter.app " that is intended to assist in converting os9 settings into OS X formats.... sometimes it's necessary, sometimes not.... I don't think it exists in logic 7, but I have it for Logic 6, if you can;t find it and may need it, give me a shout...

Hope this not entirely cheerful reply is of use.

Max

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Hope this not entirely cheerful reply is of use.

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It definitely is of use and appreciated!

(Off Topic:) And you've remembered correctly about PT. But since recently ...no more PT for me. I noticed it just stood there and I was doing more and more native so I made the decision to sell PT and invest in new/more native power. I don't work for clients (well at least not in a way they come with PT sessions), so I'm really happy I've made a decision based on my workflow instead of on what had become more or less a status symbol in my computer. :-)

Merlin.

hi,

i've got a couple of answers for you:

4 - my G3 using os9.2 recognises wav files when using cubase 5.1

5 - i have a pc monitor, which i connect to my 7600 via an adaptor which you should be able to get form any store which knows their stuff. i think the new macs all use pc type monitor connections anyway so you should be ok but again ask a dealer first...

hope that helps.

hammer

Hi,

I'm using the Waves 5 plugins in Logic Pro6 on my OSX 10.3.8 Mac

When I start up Logic, the plugins take over 10 minutes to initialize, and then Logic to open

I know it's the Waves plugins which are taking so long because I removed them from the components folder, ran Logic, and it took a minute if that to open

I'm running the latest 5.0 version of Waves diamond bundle. I have contacted Waves support, but haven't had any reply, so I thought I'd post here as you guys/gals know a lot about Logic and thought it may be a Logic issue also

Please can you help me

Cheers

Ashley

It kind of is a logic issue. Generally logic takes a long time to do anything! In 6, the AU manager was not yet introduced, and every time you run logic it scans and initalises all your components. The more you have, the longer it takes. Logic 7 helped this with it's cache-ing system where essentially, it does the load once (the first time you run logic with new plugins installed), then remembers it so that the next time you load logic, all it does is (to the effect of:) "oh yeah, I remember these plug-ins, let them in!"

Solution: upgrade to logic 7.1. But bare in mind the downsides to doing this.

On another note: Max, is the compiled FAQ finished yet?

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What's the best way of programming drums in Logic?
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i'm with yorkio, i'd bare my bum in woolworths window for the rewire info!

Max, I am happy to say that I have finally managed to afford the change to the darkside, and bought my first Mac. I have little previous Mac knowledge, and am the perfect candidate for a FAQ.

I am pretty good on Windows OS, and the same goes for Logic 5, so I'm hoping I should grasp the changes.........at some stage.

For my money some good questions to answer in a FAQ revolve around optimizing OSX for audio, how to decrease resource hogging non-audio parts of the OS, should I uninstall garageband before installing Logic Pro?. (Nice one for the toasty XS key advice).

Part of using a PC for audio effectively means stripping out everything possible which is not audio-related to increase performance. Maybe this is not as necessary in Macland?

Lastly, I got a 2Gig Macbook with 1 gig RAM, has anyone any performance info for this spec set-up?

Hope you don;t think this is lot of waffle as I'm starting to wonder myself!!!

Thanks guys

P.S. I nearly forgot one of the most important, should I enable my Mac for automatic updates or not?

I definitely finished now!!

Here's another question for the FAQ.

How can I convert my collection of Acid loops to work in Logic?

Surely the first FAQ will be:
I want to buy a Mac - what are the best options for A type User, B Type User and C type user

(BTW - that is my question)

Hey, how goes?
Just converted to Mac + Logic, so apologies if this all seems a bit obvious! But my band recorded a demo recently, I asked for the data files so I could have do some mixing, editting etc. They're .omf, which Logic "knows" but won't open because they're song files - any ways of getting around this so I can do some mixing? They won't convert when I drag them into the arrange window, nor will they open when I open them from inside Logic. Can't get back home to the manuals for a good while - so any help much appreciated!
Cheers!

Good day!

I've got one for you. I'm just starting out on a mac and DAW's in general and read in my M-Box/Pro-tools instructions that I : - 'Shouldn't save music files on system archives and a new archive should be created for music', so being a total unabashed noob a couple of questions popped into my confused little head .

1) Does this mean I should partition my drive and is 'partitioning' the same as creating a new archive? I have been a PC user for a little while so partitioning is sort of familiar to me.
2) What should I keep in the audio section of my hard drive? Just music files or Sequencers, sample libraries, plug-ins and all the other crap too?

I intend to mainly use my mac for music but I want to get into Carbon and C-sound as well. So I guess on the audio side, 200 gigs should cover it.

Thanks for your time!

hey, just converted to mac and im having a few n00b troubles

1) How do i install and use other AU/Vst plugins in logic express. I installed the programs as per normal and i have .component files and a few .vst for the vsts, but i cant get them to appear in logic. The main program im trying to get working is EZ drummer DKH.

2) Similarly, i have extra inserts and fx plugins, again, in the right folders and installed but not appearing

Cheers

VSTs don't work in Logic. Logic is an AU host only.

Audio Units (.component) need to be installed in Library/Audio/Plug-ins

If plug-ins aren't appearing you can get Logic to rescan through the preferences menu. Logic should scan new plug-ins at every startup. If it's not finding them you may need to reinstall some of the Logic librarys.

SJ.

hi
i'm running a dual 2ghz mac g5 (4years old) with logic 7.2.I want to link it to a windows machine so they both sync within a song within logic-running the audio through the analog inputs on my motu 828 mk 2.Is this possible with a timecode generator ? having the logic mixer recieving the windows inputs into the mix and would it be possible to record the inputs as a audio file in logic?!!!!!!

1) how to install plugins in logic pro 8?

2) how to convert vst to AU?

3) how to rewire it with live ableton?


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2) how to convert vst to AU?

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You can get vst to au converters like this:
http://www.fxpansion.com/index.php?page=5&tab=22

But they only work if you have, in the case of a mactel, a UB version of your VST - in which case there's very probably a straight AU version of it anyway.
There is no way of converting a Windows vst to an au.

helloooo

hey has been a whiley since i last was in, but i have discovered something a bit weird going on in logic 8 and am not sure what to do about it, but its doing my head in a bit now :-Z

goes something like this;

I have created a couple of instruments for a track using the ESX24 sampler and when i open logic, the instrument looses the link to the audio files being used, even though I previously saved the instrument with settings. My audio files are located in the "audio" folder under the same host folder as my project, so Im presuming they should be found automatically.

The only way Ive found so far to resolve it, is to open the esx and re-load the instrument settings that I saved, and then re-point each part of the instrument to the corresponding audio files.

Does anyone know how I could resolve the problem or is this a possible bug?

ta in advance

Ju

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they're in the wrong place..... the audio folder is intended for the audio tracks recorded..... the EXS24 instrument referencing the audio samples , and ideally the audio sample files themselves, , or a shortcut to them, should be should be in the ESX instruments sample library folder

mac HD>Library>Application Support>Logic>Sampler instruments.


is probably best....

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will try it tomoz and see how i get on.

ta

hiya max

just to let you know I re-saved my project with the esx files in the sampler instrument folder as you advised and its working fine now. thanks! :thumbup:

Ive managed to unearth another problem now though hehe...

ive hooked up my juno 106 to the mac (1/4 jack from the "phones" port to line-in), then mac mic out to amp. Am trying to nail a decent bassline out of the juno, thought I could fire up logic and play my audio Ive already got recorded, then record the audio from the keyboard at the same time, only snag is when i play a section on the juno, i hear two instances of it :-S i dont think its latency as it would only play once...??

if anyone has any ideas, they'd be very gratefully recieved

Ju

Edited by Jüsme (22/03/08 12:48 AM)

Hey. I searched the forum and wasn't able to find help with my problem.

Picture the scene. I have Logic 8. In a session I have an acoustic guitar. 3 tracks. 2 close mic's and a room mic. all 3 are at different levels ( as you might expect ). All 3 tracks are in a group. Now as the song gets going, the acoustic needs to come down a bit, so, I draw some automation on one of the tracks, expecting the others to follow up and down by the same amount, as they are grouped, but what happens is, they all jump to the same level as the automated track. this happens as soon as I draw in the automation. Surly I don't have to un-group the tracks and write each automation separately? ( he asks hopefully!!! )

many thanks if you could help.

Yeah, grouping doesn't work like this. When three channels are grouped, you can write automation to all three tracks by using one fader. But each of the track tracks have independent automation - ie editing the automation in one track doesn't affect the automation in the other tracks (though automation updates with the fader will drag the others as well, and write their automation, providing they are in one of the automation write modes.)

The best way to achieve what you want is to send the three guitar channels to an aux, and then to the main outputs, and automate that aux for level changes. This also lets you put plugins on the bus to affect all the tracks that make up the guitar part if desired.

Desmond. Many thanks for the reply. I won't waste any more time trying that then.. haha.. ok, here's another one.

I've just read in the Logic 8 manual that you can apply digidesign audiosuite plugins destructively in soundtrack pro2. The audio opens in Soundtrack fine, and the regular plugins are all listed, but i can't find the audiosuite plugins anywhere!! I looked on the apple discussion board but couldn't find a definitive answer. ( even tho quite a few people seem to be asking the same question )

Thanks again

Dale

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I've just read in the Logic 8 manual that you can apply digidesign audiosuite plugins destructively in soundtrack pro2. The audio opens in Soundtrack fine, and the regular plugins are all listed, but i can't find the audiosuite plugins anywhere!!

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Where in the manual?

There is no mention of the word "Audiosuite" in the Soundtrack manuals, so it seems unlikely.

The only references to Audiosuite plugins in the Logic manual say that you can process audio using audiosuite plugins in the sample editor. This refers to Logic's inbuilt sample editor, *not* Soundtrack Pro, which is a completely separate application.

So it seems unlikely STP supports audiosuite plugins at all.

sorry for confusion.

The reference to Audiosuite is in the Logic manual, not the STP manual. I tried the STP approach after seeing someone else on this message board say it was possible. I did originally start with Logic sample editor, but couldn't work out how to apply audiosuite, hence I started looking for other options.

How would you go about applying audiosuite in Logic sample editor? as the only mention on page 518 LP8 manual doesn't really help and i've never used audiosuite outside Pro Tools before..

Many thanks again for your time.

Edited by DaleSmith (07/07/08 09:23 AM)

Using AudioSuite Plug-ins

The Sample Editor allows the use of AudioSuite plug-ins. These plug-ins work destructively—the result of the editing process is written into the audio file.

Note: AudioSuite plug-ins can only be used with hardware addressed by the DAE (Digidesign Audio Engine). Any properly installed AudioSuite plug-in will be displayed in the AudioSuite menu.

Are you running Logic under DAE with Digi hardware, or are you running under Core Audio? You need to be running under DAE before any available audiosuite plugins show up.

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Using AudioSuite Plug-ins

The Sample Editor allows the use of AudioSuite plug-ins. These plug-ins work destructively—the result of the editing process is written into the audio file.

Note: AudioSuite plug-ins can only be used with hardware addressed by the DAE (Digidesign Audio Engine). Any properly installed AudioSuite plug-in will be displayed in the AudioSuite menu.

Are you running Logic under DAE with Digi hardware, or are you running under Core Audio? You need to be running under DAE before any available audiosuite plugins show up.

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im running under Core Audio!! Many thanks for that. I have Pro Tools M audio on my Mac with an M-audio Fast Track Pro. I wouldn't have worked it out myself. I'll have a tinker tomorrow.

Thanks again ..

Dale

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im running under Core Audio!! Many thanks for that. I have Pro Tools M audio on my Mac with an M-audio Fast Track Pro. I wouldn't have worked it out myself. I'll have a tinker tomorrow.

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Pro Tools M-Powered is not Pro Tools, it's a cut down native only version that works with regular audio interfaces. The full ProTools, powered by hardware, works under DAE. This is the mixing engine underneath Pro Tools.

You cannot use AudioSuite plugins in Logic with your version of ProTools M-Powered, as far as I'm aware (I'm not a PT user).

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im running under Core Audio!! Many thanks for that. I have Pro Tools M audio on my Mac with an M-audio Fast Track Pro. I wouldn't have worked it out myself. I'll have a tinker tomorrow.

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Pro Tools M-Powered is not Pro Tools, it's a cut down native only version that works with regular audio interfaces. The full ProTools, powered by hardware, works under DAE. This is the mixing engine underneath Pro Tools.

You cannot use AudioSuite plugins in Logic with your version of ProTools M-Powered, as far as I'm aware (I'm not a PT user).

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thanks for that mate. would have still been banging my head against the screen now...

regards

Dale

1). What speed of CPU is recommended as a minimum? (Duo-Core at least of course...2ghz? 2.1? 2.4?

2). Minimum Amount of RAM for using Logic (>insert other DAWS here<) as well as a dual boot with XP or Vista.

3). How do I install my VSTs on a mac?
4). If I run all my sessions etc on a external hard drive will it run smoothly or can I easily run everything off the built in one?

5). "Im a MAC noob and mine just arrived today, what essentials should I download immmediately to save me time and stress later? I will be using Logic 8 and PT"

there's 5 FAQ?

Hi guys, hope this is the right place for this question!

its dumb but its been bugging me forever!

is there any way of adding my own channel strip icons to Logic Studio 8? im sick of constantly looking at the bog standard kick and snare icons and noticed a while ago in a youtube video someone had some custom icons but i can't figure out how to do it!

Hope you can help me!

Chris

Yes.

Page 196 in the main Logic manual, under the heading "Creating Your Own Icons" documents the procedure.

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Forever? It didn't occur to you to open the PDF manual, type "icon" in the search field, and click on the first result? Took me all of 12 seconds... considerably less than "forever"...

I think it's great that this FAQ has been place here, but I have a 'biased' suggestion.

I'm still not that OK with Logic, so along with the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions), can I suggest a different FAQ? (Frequently Answered Questions)

Not trying to be awkward, but this set of good questions doesn't have any answers.

If I'm wrong, (and I am quite often) please point me to the aswers section.....

T

a fair point

many of these have been answered in other threads.... and i have been somewhat lacking in my diligence in collating such things.... time is the enemy of many things... including sorting this lot out....

Desmond deserves a whole bunch of medals for his tireless and rapid answering of many things.....

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Not a question, more general advise ... I've downloaded "QuicKeys" for mac, which automates universal keyboard commands on OSX, so every five minutes I've programmed it to autosave for logic to save me the hassle.



There's probably an easier way to do this?

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Not a question, more general advise ... I've downloaded "QuicKeys" for mac, which automates universal keyboard commands on OSX, so every five minutes I've programmed it to autosave for logic to save me the hassle.

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I would never ever do this, nor recommend anyone else do this.

I want to save when I want to save. I do not want the computer randomly overwriting my project in the middle of me doing stuff - that's crazy - and a surefire way to losing something important.

There is no substitute for a good command-S habit.

Except now Apple think it's users aren't even able to do that, and just take the function away.

Progress, I guess. Two steps forward, one step backward...

However I do use Quickeys for some other things, as well as Applescripts and other cool little tools...