kubrick2001
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a new virus
#566783 - 13/01/08 03:16 PM
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desmond
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Re: a new virus
[Re: kubrick2001]
#566789 - 13/01/08 03:29 PM
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But probably costs three times the price...
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Tui
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Re: a new virus
[Re: kubrick2001]
#566821 - 13/01/08 04:48 PM
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Interesting... Reminds me a bit of the DX200, which I used to own. In the end, it was a
bit frustrating to work with - not enough knobs to twiddle for a start, and also sonically
somewhat limited. This little Virus thing might be similar in that regard (love my Virus
b, though!  )
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Tímo
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Re: a new virus
[Re: Tui]
#566912 - 13/01/08 09:44 PM
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http://www.infekted.org/virus/showthread.php?p=279947 [ Access Virus TI Snow press release - 1.1mb PDF] [ Virus Ti Snow QuickStart manual - 717kb PDF] In short: * Identical software feature set to TI (including Hypersaw, Wavetables,
Graintables, Formants, Moog filters, programmable arp's, Virus Control, etc.) * 11x6"
(28x15cm) * White fascia, with 6 knobs, 21 buttons and 18 white LEDs. * 2 x
24-bit analog inputs, 2 x 192KHz/24bit balanced (+4dB) analog outputs, USB (B-type), Midi
In and Out. * The same Full Speed 12Mb/s USB v2 as the standard Virus TIs is used here, for
MIDI and Audio (but with 3 additional stereo audio outputs! - Soon to be launched
as an OS upgrade for standard Virus TIs too.). * Adaptive menus and Easy Edit
modes. * 512 RAM and 512 ROM singles and 64 x 4-part multis. * Integration with
Logic 8, Cubase 4, Ableton Live 7, Pro Tools 7.4, Sonar 7 and FL Studio 7. * Comes
with gig bag. * Perhaps some new soundsets, too. Audio demos: [ Bank A Factory - 8mb zip] [ Bank D Factory - 12mb zip] Not the best news for Waldorf!
-------------------- http://Infekted.org ~ Access Virus news & community
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SanFranCrisko
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Re: a new virus
[Re: Tímo]
#566916 - 13/01/08 09:50 PM
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I love the Virus. If I could afford one I'd get it...
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phattslagg
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Re: a new virus
[Re: Tímo]
#566931 - 13/01/08 10:32 PM
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Quote Tímo:
Not the
best news for Waldorf!
Well, since Waldorf have decided
to sell the Blofeld at a discontinued price right from the off, they'll probably still
sell plenty 
Loving the look of the Snow though!
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Neil C
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Quote SanFranCrisko:
I love the
Virus. If I could afford one I'd get it...
Access say it's 'the most affordable Virus ever' on their
presentation thing. Which is an intriguing statement given that my Virus Rack I got new
about 5 years ago was around £500.
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phattslagg
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Re: a new virus
[Re: Neil C]
#567229 - 14/01/08 02:27 PM
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Quote Neil C:
Quote SanFranCrisko:
I love the
Virus. If I could afford one I'd get it...
Access say it's 'the most affordable Virus ever' on their
presentation thing. Which is an intriguing statement given that my Virus Rack I got new
about 5 years ago was around £500.
True. Although the Rack had a crippled sound-engine, whereas this thing doesn't.
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_Nuno_
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Re: a new virus
[Re: kubrick2001]
#567317 - 14/01/08 05:15 PM
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DV has a price of 829£ for it: http://www.dv247.com/invt/48362/affordable is a very
relative concept....
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Getafix
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Re: a new virus
[Re: kubrick2001]
#567370 - 14/01/08 06:59 PM
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You would be better off getting a used TI for that price. I got my Polar TI for 900 quid.
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Neil C
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Re: a new virus
[Re: phattslagg]
#567377 - 14/01/08 07:16 PM
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Quote phattslagg:
True.
Although the Rack had a crippled sound-engine, whereas this thing doesn't.
Maybe so - but the rack is a Virus (and
done me lovely crippled or not).
Having seen the DV Snow price Access are telling
fibby wibbies when they say it is the most affordable Virus ever, because it isn't.
I agree that the price doesn't compare impressively to the full TI desktop. Not really a
huge development it seems to me. Basically at said price seems only really welcome to
someone who was going to get a TI anyway and could do with a smaller one.
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hogberto
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Re: a new virus
[Re: _Nuno_]
#567384 - 14/01/08 07:29 PM
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Quote Nuno_:
DV has a price of
829£ for it:
http://www.dv247.com/invt/48362/
affordable is a very
relative concept....
DV and
Access can f*ck right off at that price.
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Peter Conz Connelly
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Re: a new virus
[Re: hogberto]
#567499 - 14/01/08 10:55 PM
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That's far too expensive!!! At £500 - £600 MAYBE, but at £829, there's not a hope in
hell I'd buy one new. I'd rather buy a 2nd hand Ti, some which I've seen sell for the same
or less. P
-------------------- Composer, Producer, Sound Designer
www.universal-sound-design.com
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Re: a new virus
[Re: kubrick2001]
#567518 - 14/01/08 11:32 PM
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Tell u what would've been cool ... if it also doubled as an elektron drum machine
thingy.
The price tag might have been justiifed then.
Also a
quality phantom xlr mic in that was open to sound mangling of the Snow.
As well as
spdif in & out.
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stevie
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Re: a new virus
[Re: kubrick2001]
#567635 - 15/01/08 10:59 AM
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Yeah it's way too compromised at that price and makes no sense at all since you can buy
the Ti rack/polar/board for not a lot more and have the full roast. Why are they competing
with there own market?
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Commander
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Re: a new virus
[Re: Tímo]
#567709 - 15/01/08 01:05 PM
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Quote Tímo:
Audio
demos: [Bank A Factory - 8mb zip] [Bank D Factory - 12mb zip]
Are those drum sounds coming from the unit too? I have a new TI
Desktop and it doesn't do that!
-------------------- Stand by for action - we are about to launch Stingray!
Cue irritating bongo music ...
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fatbenelton
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Re: a new virus
[Re: kubrick2001]
#567731 - 15/01/08 01:48 PM
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Blofeld at £299 is looking a bargain......
-------------------- Jonny
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Re: a new virus
[Re: kubrick2001]
#567732 - 15/01/08 01:49 PM
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Tímo
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Harmony Central links.
[ TI OS v2.7]:
"The new OS version
includes a new control centre application for Apple Mac OS X and Microsoft Windows XP and
Vista. Using the stand alone application users can overwrite the ROM patches of their
Viruses with their own sounds and perform complete memory backups for safety reasons and
archiving.
OS 2.7 furthermore increases the amount of audio streams from the
TI into the Virus Control plug-in by 50% and adds input side chaining capabilities. This
way, users can send audio from the host sequencer into the Virus' sound engine all
digitally, process it with the TI's filters and FX and finally loop it back into the
sequencer.
The new operating system also increases the amount of ROM sounds
to 26 banks with 128 patches each (that's, including the RAM banks, a total of nearly 4000
onboard sound patches). Among the new patches are patches by Dean Coleman, Stuart Price
(Madonna), Numb and many others.
Pricing & Availability OS 2.7 is
available to every Virus TI user free of charge and can be downloaded in Spring 2008".
[ Access-Music Atomizer] (realtime MIDI stutterer):-
"Access Music shows a technology preview of Atomizer on the winter NAMM show in Anaheim,
California. Atomizer allows you slice and dice audio in realtime using a MIDI keyboard.
Stutter effects were made famous by artists including Aphex Twin, Trentemoeller,
Squarepusher, BT and many others. In order to create those effects they either had to chop
audio regions by hand or use semi-automatic plug-ins (which don't necessarily give you a
great deal of control since they are intended to create random results). Atomizer works in
a totally different way — once sync'ed to tempo you can play those slices in realtime,
so you can virtually chop up your singer's voice while he's performing or add unique
effects to your DJ set. You can record the slicing process into your sequencer and edit it
later along with the rest of your song. You can remix in realtime as well, with the
modulation wheel becoming an intelligent cross-fader, while the pitch-wheel lets you
change the pitch by approximately 4 octaves. And there are tons of effects including
sample rate and bit rate reduction algorithms which, again, can be used in realtime and
become a part of your performance."
[ TI Snow]
-------------------- http://Infekted.org ~ Access Virus news & community
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HouseMusicMaker
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Re: a new virus
[Re: kubrick2001]
#567827 - 15/01/08 04:13 PM
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I have the honour of owning an access virus kc synth 61 key keyboard and believe me
nothing beats the millions of knobs that creates the most unbelieveable sounds ever that
comes with it, how can you play with an access virus snow? theres only 6 knobs and loads
of 80's style plastic buttons, heres what i think the knobs and buttons do:
TURN KNOB LEFT FOR 'YES' OR RIGHT FOR 'NO'
knob 1: is an access virus now
owned by a bunch of eskimos? knob 2: tells you do you regret buying this? knob
3: tells you do you wish you had bought a TI now? knob 4: do you want to turn me off
yet?
the last 2 knobs
knob 5: volume output knob 6: PAN
LEFT/RIGHT
Buttons 1-23:
Button 1: learn & spell
Button 2: tetris Button 3: calculator Button 4: memo's Button 5:
utorrent Button 6: paint Button 7: mac os x 9.2 Button 8: word 97
Button 9: windows 3.1 Button 10: msn Button 11: upgrade to a TI Button 12:
pay per view Button 13: teletext Button 14: word scrabble Button 15: Dance
ejay Button 16: sudoku Button 17: yahoo chat Button 18: the weather Button 19: ebay Button 20: itunes Button 21: online banking
Button
22: Sound Bank Group A Button 23: Sound Bank Group B
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Well i was nearly
right!
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I
just love the KC and TI coz i know that access has got that spot on!
And whats
with all products of access relating to the antarctic now, in the summer they gunna bring
you the ACCESS VIRUS IGLOO and an eskimo to play it
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Groove66
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Re: a new virus
[Re: kubrick2001]
#567992 - 15/01/08 11:15 PM
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Well i'm a prouder owner of a Virus TI Polar  IMHO the DV price of the TI Snow is not too far off. To me, something like £799 sounds
about right, considering the desktop TI still costs £1200 new, and the beautiful looking
Polar and the 61 Keyboard version still cost £1599. The TI Snow still has the
same features as the other TI's, now upto 6000 patches, and full Virus Control via PC/Mac,
which works pretty solid on the lastest OS. You get a high quality audio interface too,
Midi in and Midi out, alot more over a Blofeld for example. Bottom line is,
why should Access make this unit any cheaper? I paid alot of money for my Virus TI, why
should it be a bargain for anybody else. Even at £850 it is still a great
price imo for a new product with a full warranty.
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HouseMusicMaker
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Re: a new virus
[Re: kubrick2001]
#568077 - 16/01/08 09:20 AM
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why should it be a bargain for anybody else?
answer is:
because only
greedy people want access virus's all to themselves, i just think its great that other
people can have the access virus's, could you imagine if every track you hear incorporates
an access virus and you can hear that true lovely access virus sound, wouldnt you rather
tracks were made out of these beutiful machines that a shitty B CLASS synth, spread the
love of the access virus to people that cant afford it, thats what i say!
soon
everyone will have one!
thats wicked,
just dont be greedy with your
virus, not mentioning the thousands of owners that already own them, you'll be suprised at
how many people actually own a virus these days, and thats quite alot, coz the avarage
virus rack sells seconedhand now for £300 - £500, the ti racks ive seen for £750 in my
local secondhand music shop, and ti keyboards and polars are now in turnkey for £1200,
the ti racks are retailing at £1000, and virus b rack goes for £400, and virus kc goes
for £600-£700, its not exactly alot of money is it, i dont think owning an access virus
these days really is exclusive as you think coz i yet know alot of people who own them,
and they just make tunes in the bedrooms lol, access virus's are so cool that kids are
getting into them at schools, coz i know 1 pupil at a secondary school who has a ti in a
mini studio at his school, and if your a student you get quite abit of money of too at
some retailers!
-------------------- The original house music maker. Me.
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Neil C
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Quote HouseMusicMaker:
the ti
racks ive seen
You might
have seen a TI desktop in a rack (by virtue of the included rack ears)- but there is no TI
rack.
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Tímo
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Yes, but...
Quote table for
two:
139 Euros
Sylenth 1
http://www.lennardigital.com/modules/home/
... this actually sounds rather good!!
Sonically to my ears, from the audio/vid demos, it seems very dark/Virus-like, and at
just over £100 I might just have to grab one at some point!
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HouseMusicMaker
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Re: a new virus
[Re: Neil C]
#568288 - 16/01/08 04:10 PM
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sorry, yes i do mean the ti in a rack via rack ears, personally i think ti's look better
in a rack, coz i just dont like the mahagany coloured end that you get on the TI, why
didnt they just keep them black like my virus kc?
-------------------- The original house music maker. Me.
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Mike Craig
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Re: a new virus
[Re: kubrick2001]
#568693 - 17/01/08 03:13 PM
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This new virus looks like an interesting option for anyone who is limited for space.
This would be great for someone who has a software based studio and uses a MIDI
controller keyboard.
The Virus control plug-in is a great interface for
creating and editing patches, and this will no-doubt be included with the new virus.
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Re: a new virus
[Re: Tímo]
#568702 - 17/01/08 03:32 PM
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Quote Tímo:
Quote table for two:
139
Euros Sylenth 1
http://www.lennardigital.com/modules/home/
... this actually sounds rather good!!
Sonically to my ears, from the audio/vid demos, it seems very dark/Virus-like, and at
just over £100 I might just have to grab one at some point!
I was hoping you might say that T 
I
too felt it had a certain darkness & depth Virus like.
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