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I haven't listened to the RM1 yet.

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I drank their Champagne when they launched them at the AES in Vienna.

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As others here have already said, there are no best monitors but there are some that are regularly prized for their sonic qualities in a given situation. I personally adore my Quested S7 active monitors! I've previously posted about them on the forums here.


NCGM

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get six different people mixing with the same monitors and see if the results are the same, and another six to pick the best mix, t4t

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Quote James Lehmann:

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Look forward to reading your thoughts in more detail
in your (presumably forthcoming) review!

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It's already in the pile at the office

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And already in print here. The review was so enthusiastic that I had to check the front cover to make sure that I hadn't picked up a copy of Audio Media by mistake.

Cheers

James.

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http://www.jrpmusic.net

Edited by James Perrett (03/09/07 01:11 PM)

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And already in print here.

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But you'll have tou buy the magazine as it won't be on-line for about three monts.

Just make sure you read ny excellent article first.

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I would be interested to hear the RMs but must say that the TB2s I have are very good.

The ATCs I have for my main monitoring are probably the best I have heard for a long time, at any price point.

I might go demo the RMs against the Tbs..........I shall leave wallet at home though.

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It seems to me that all too often the amplifier is forgotten abouut when disussing studio monitors. No matter how good the speaker system it is only as good as the amplifiers and crossovers used. I have used Tim Isaac amplifiers and crossovers for years and no matter what speakers I have used they sound better with his stuff.

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Edited by Max! (03/09/07 03:56 PM)

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It seems to me that all too often the amplifier is forgotten abouut when discussing studio monitors. No matter how good the speaker system it is only as good as the amplifiers and crossovers used. I have used Tim Isaac amplifiers and crossovers for years and no matter what speakers I have used they sound better with his stuff.

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I agree about the amp. being important.

But, to be honest, the No.1 choice for Monitors (if you are not using actives) is the Bryston - recommended highly by many people, with the Flying Mole a good choice if you want an amp. strapped to the loudspeaker.

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President - Federation Internationale des Chasseurs de Sons

I remember Tim Isaac as being something of a live sound guru with Turbosound years ago, but I have no recollection of him ever making a product for studio monitoring where the needs are very different (e.g. no fans, ideally!).

I'd be interested in any further information or links.

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Edited by Steve Hill (03/09/07 07:57 PM)

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Just make sure you read ny excellent article first.

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I read it over breakfast this morning and very interesting it was too.

Cheers

James

PS - Happy Birthday

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Your memory is pretty good.... Tim was one of the founders of turbo sound. But duhhhhh He is also a major shareholder of ATC the monitor people and it is his amplifier tehnology used in their range of powered monitors. I have used his amplifiers for years starting with the famous fan amps built for glastonbury. I have one of the few stereo fan amps in existence.

I was about to post a comment to the effct that he designed the ATC amps... but you beat me to it. I agree, he is a good designer of amps, but he certainly isn't the only one. Thankfully, there is a reasonable choice out there these days.

hugh

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Theoretically my vote would go for Kef speakers with the Uni-Q drivers.

On paper it just seems like they would beat anything else:

Curved cabinet design.

Tweeter in center of woofer, for a single-point sound source.

Woofer cone used as a waveguide for the tweeter.

But I've yet to actually hear a pair, lol. Thinking of getting a pair of the iQ1s just so I can sample their radical design.

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You're like me with the original Mordaunt Short MS10's. Mine were £13.50 off ebay and I recommend them to everyone. Gale Mini Monitor's are also very good. I think my next set will be the later MS10i Pearl Edition though, in maple... mmm...

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Original MS10s eh? That takes me back a bit - I designed them.

Phil

PS. I'm actually very tempted to buy a pair of the Argos boxes just to see what they're like. Jeeez I'm a sad old git.

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Monitor reviews boring? Mine never were, well, at least I enjoyed them

Have to say I agree with all the comments about the difficulty of defining "the best", but having said that, nobody's mentioned what I think is one of the finest speakers ever built (and no I'm not about to plug my own efforts) - The Yamaha NS1000M. Find a pair, bypass the unreliable mid/tweeter attenuator gubbins and you'll never need anything else. Finding a pair is however not easy. Hens' teeth is easier.

Phil

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Gale Mini Monitor's ....

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The best thing about Gale was the advert.

Those of you around in the early '80's will know the one I mean

(sorry I can't find an on-line pic.)

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President - Federation Internationale des Chasseurs de Sons

John,

Yes, I know the one you mean - you dirty old man.

Phil

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if memory serves me correctly, it's probably just as well you can;t find a pic to link to....

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if you don't know who i am, i aint gonna tell you.

There were two virtually identical ads - both quite tasteful as they were based on a famous painting (by Manet if my memory serves me correctly).

One, she was clothed; the other............

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President - Federation Internationale des Chasseurs de Sons

not the one i'm thining of then.....


there were some real doozies ....

possibly the most questionable was by Washburn..... there really was no room for imagination left at all... and that's all I'll say about it here.....


(looking forward to trying AE22's )

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not the one i'm thinking of then.....

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It was a picture of the Gale loudspeaker with the chrome ends.

There was a small group of three or four men (maybe musicians) all in evening suits and a reclining girl in a white evening dress.

That was the acceptable one.

The second one was identical, except she was totally nude.

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President - Federation Internationale des Chasseurs de Sons

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not the one i'm thining of then.....


there were some real doozies ....

possibly the most questionable was by Washburn..... there really was no room for imagination left at all... and that's all I'll say about it here.....


(looking forward to trying AE22's )

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Good of you to drop the AE22 into this thread Max. Saved me having to manufacture some tenuous justification

Phil

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www.philward.biz

Of the monitors I've heard, I like ATC, PMC — and REL for sub duties.

Hmmm. I'd like to audition those RM2s!

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Of the monitors I've heard, I like ATC, PMC — and REL for sub duties.

Hmmm. I'd like to audition those RM2s!

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Don't know REL, but ATC and PMC are on my short list of goodies along with Harbeth and K+H - and that's about all.

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President - Federation Internationale des Chasseurs de Sons

You are all missing the point here.

The best Studio Monitors are white K+H 0330Ds.

In white.

Not the black ones or the silver ones, the white ones.

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Cue irritating bongo music ...

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You are all missing the point here.

The best Studio Monitors are white K+H 0330Ds.

In white.

Not the black ones or the silver ones, the white ones.

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Don't you mean the K+H O 300 D in white?



The O 330 D does not exist yet.

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John - Sound-Link ProAudio
President - Federation Internationale des Chasseurs de Sons

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Quote Commander:

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You are all missing the point here.

The best Studio Monitors are white K+H 0330Ds.

In white.

Not the black ones or the silver ones, the white ones.

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Don't you mean the K+H O 300 D in white?



The O 330 D does not exist yet.

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Oops, bugger!

In my eagerness to get across the point that the best speakers by far are white K+H 0300Ds I inadvertantly got carried away with the 3 key. I have had the offending key taken out and shot so it will never happen again.

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The best I have heard so far...

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Quote Max!:

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not the one i'm thinking of then.....

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It was a picture of the Gale loudspeaker with the chrome ends.

There was a small group of three or four men (maybe musicians) all in evening suits and a reclining girl in a white evening dress.

That was the acceptable one.

The second one was identical, except she was totally nude.

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Can you Photoshop the dudes out the pic and PM the result please John?

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Stretch That Note