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Holy Driver



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String Gauge new
      #19214 - 22/09/04 03:16 PM
Ive been a ernie ball power slinky user for many a year and recently decided to try GHS Boomers. The Gauge is slighly heavier on the Boomers though. Does anyone use these,
my old gauge was
11, 14, 18p, 28, 38, 48
and the boomers that im going to try:
11, 15, 18, 33, 43, 53

You dont think there will be any neck problems do you????!!

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Re: String Gauge new [Re: Holy Driver]
      #19378 - 22/09/04 06:16 PM
It depends on the kind of guitar that you have and how well the neck is reinforced.

Generally-speaking though, since you're staying within the same general string gauge (i.e., 11's vs. 10's, 9's or 13's) such a change shouldn't affect it that much, and you might not even hardly notice a difference. Of cource you're gonna get more pull from the thicker gauges, but also from the standard .18 as it tends to get tighter than the wound .18p. (I used to use wound 3rd strings myself but hated how they'd snap more easily than the high E string - so I switched back to standards as well.)

If you're overly concerned about it however, you can always take your guitar to a technician and see if your neck is correctly adjusted and can handle the extra string tension.

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BigAl
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Re: String Gauge new [Re: d.scott of suburbia]
      #19915 - 23/09/04 09:18 AM
Once your guitar is set-up for a gauge, stick to it.
I have just put 12's on my acoustic (was 11's) and gave the truss rod a wee turn, as the 12's pull the neck a tad more. It was perfectly playable without adjustment, but with the adjustment, it was just perfect.
It's amazing how many peoples' guitars aren't set up correctly, but they tend to get used to them.
Don't adjust the truss rod if you're not sure.

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Holy Driver



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Re: String Gauge new [Re: BigAl]
      #19951 - 23/09/04 09:44 AM
I drop my tuning to D and had the guitar set up for 11's anyway. Then i gave the truss rod a wee turn (1 full turn) just to lower the action a bit. Im sure it will be okay but thanks for your advice.
Im looking forward to getting these bloomers. £19 for 5 packs!
Cheers,
Dave

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Re: String Gauge new [Re: Holy Driver]
      #21529 - 25/09/04 08:40 AM
Got the GHS Boomer 11's a couple of days ago. What a tone! They are thick and harder to play but they sound great, noticed the diffrence acoustically (not through the amp). Also, found that going between electric and acoustic is alot less painfull.
Neck seems fine, might adjust the truss rod a little to compensate for heavier gauge but other than that perfect.
Cheers for the help fellas.
Dave.


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Ben



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Re: String Gauge new [Re: The Dave that should not be!!!]
      #36477 - 17/10/04 11:44 AM
"Then i gave the truss rod a wee turn (1 full turn)..."

Aaargh! Careful! One full turn isn't really wee - a quarter turn would be a good starting point. Mind you, if it's done the job then fine.


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Re: String Gauge new [Re: Holy Driver]
      #36754 - 17/10/04 11:28 PM
Quote Dave:

Then i gave the truss rod a wee turn (1 full turn)




Last time I could get a whole turn on a truss rod, it was because it hadn't been tightened at all and was doing nothing. The time before... the truss rod was broken. Hopefully yours is the former not the latter.


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Holy Driver



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Re: String Gauge new [Re: zenguitar]
      #37075 - 18/10/04 01:19 PM
Well spotted my axe slingin' amigos. It was a 1/4 turn, i dont know why i said a full turn. And Richard Ashcroft said the drugs dont work eh!
Its a little buzzier but the heavier gauge and low action feels and sounds great.
Cheers for all the replys!

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Re: String Gauge new [Re: Holy Driver]
      #37151 - 18/10/04 03:20 PM
Quote Holy Diver:

I drop my tuning to D and had the guitar set up for 11's anyway. Then i gave the truss rod a wee turn (1 full turn) just to lower the action a bit. Im sure it will be okay but thanks for your advice.
Im looking forward to getting these bloomers. £19 for 5 packs!
Cheers,
Dave




I should stress here that the truss rod is NOT a device intended to be used for adjusting the action height.
The purpose is to reinforce the neck, and adjustable ones allow us to adjust the relief bow in the neck so that it matches the natural ellipse the strings vibrate in for any given gauge of strings...

Action height is adjusted at the nut and bridge... and this should be done with an eye on the clearance of the strings at any point along the neck.

As Ben rightly points out, a full turn is NOT something you should expect to do ...

My Advice on adjusting truss rods is NEVER to do more than 1/8th of a turn at a time, and allow a period between adjustments for the wood to settle..

Wood is not a uniform or elastic substance, as such it's movement for a given change in compression and torsion pressures is somewhat unpredictable on a precise level.
So adjustments should be made gently, and in stages , with reference point checks made at each stage.

Max

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Re: String Gauge new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #37466 - 19/10/04 12:00 AM
couldn't have put it better

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Re: String Gauge new [Re: Holy Driver]
      #37766 - 19/10/04 01:47 PM
Yep, Max has hit the amp on the head here.


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Re: String Gauge new [Re: Holy Driver]
      #62070 - 13/12/04 06:17 PM
Just thought I'd ressurect this thread to ask where you got 5 sets for £12? I've started using the GHS thick'n'thin's- best strings I've used so far, although I'm gonna have to do a re set-up...
cheers

C


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Re: String Gauge new [Re: Holy Driver]
      #62071 - 13/12/04 06:19 PM
Just thought I'd ressurect this thread to ask where you got 5 sets for £19? I've started using the GHS thick'n'thin's- best strings I've used so far, although I'm gonna have to do a re set-up...
cheers

C


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Re: String Gauge [Re: Holy Driver]
      #62845 - 15/12/04 09:06 AM
Hey, I'm late on this thread (as usual) but I'd just like to add that I've found that changing string brands, even if the gauge is nominally the same, sometimes necessitates a set-up.

What I do when checking the truss rod is to capo at the first fret, then hold down the bottom E string at the last fret. Check the clearance between string and the 8th fret (or thereabouts). If you 're not sure how much clearance there should be, you should be able to get a folded piece of paper into the gap. Repeat for the top E string.

Tweak truss rod as required, retune all strings and check again.


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