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Wilko Johnson is a pale imitation of his idol, Mick Green.

That`s MICK GREEN folks.

Even Sir Macca picked him for his rocky rolly album along with a certain Mr. Gilmour.

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You have to get it from somewhere, so borrow from the best...

Martin Harley (though he has found a wider audience now he has been in Guitarist, which is a good thing!)
Eric Bibb
Andy Cairns

Hewesy

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off the top of my head
i really hate guitarists who just play tired blues riffs/pentatonic solos through expensive guitars and expensive amps (no names mentioned).

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i hear what youre saying... but when its done right they sound so damn good that i cant agree with you..!

case in point. Dan Auerbach from the Black Keys. theyre a new band starting to make big waves on the blues/rock scene. been around for a few years already though.

basically he is a rock/blues guitarist in the traditional vein. but he sings and plays guitar as if its all just one instrument together and it sounds so DAMN GOOD!!!! i would defy any experimentalist guitarists to bring the same amount of emotion and groove to their performances as this guy - and others like him.

its all personal preferences though at the end of the day..


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Quote caveman82:

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off the top of my head
i really hate guitarists who just play tired blues riffs/pentatonic solos through expensive guitars and expensive amps (no names mentioned).

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i hear what youre saying... but when its done right they sound so damn good that i cant agree with you..!

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i'm pleased some people agree with me! just to clarify, not that i have a problem with guitarists playing blues riffs pentatonic scales, as then i would be writing off son house, leadbelly, jimi hendrix, page, and the dudes from thin lizzy who i listen to all the time. i just have a problem with the certain names i won't mention, who are highly regarded but from my interpretation have never done much to inspire.

one of the most inspirational guitarists in recent times, without a question of a doubt is glenn branca. without him, sonic youth's crazy tunings and noise rock would probably never have happened in addition to many other bands from new york. also bridged gaps between 20th century minimalist classical composition and avant punk. "lesson number one" is his ode to the composer steve reich, which for fans of the guitar i can recommend listening to enough.

Steve Hackett - not exactly an unknown, I admit, but not mentioned much in this type of discussion these days. It's corny, maybe, but he really does know the meaning of playing with economy. The guy is a genius.

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Not sure which bits were Tanya Donelly, which Thomas Gorman, but there's some excellent guitar playing on Belly's album Star (1993).

Peter Solowska (Wedding Present) could teach today's identikit indie bands a thing or two about rhythm guitar too (check out Bizarro, 1989).

And not exactly unknown, but under-rated: I'd have to say that the Stones' guitar sound was great when Mick Taylor replaced Brian Jones.

Some interesting suggestions, to which I have to add:

Justin Sullivan, of New Model Army fame, but also stunning solo player. Nowt flashy, but by gum he knows how to wrap an acoustic guitar round a song...

Ian Bairnson from, amongst others, The Alan Parsons Project.

Gene Bertoncini
Howard Alden
Frank Vignola
Paul Bollenback
John Pisano
Martin Taylor
Emily Remler
Jimmy Bruno
Sabicas
Clarence White

andy mccoy from hanoi rocks the first five albums anyway but for the real deal listen to all those wasted years, the live album
also both the guys from the jayhawks especially on how high the green grass
not unknown but probably my favourite player ever is tommy bolin

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Terje Rypdal is one of THE greatest. Deep and dark and he's Norwegian

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Manitas de Plata?

Mick Ronson???

STEVE CROPPER????

Less known?

There's this bloke with a Strat called Hank that I heard about the other day...

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Hank, Is he any good?

How about a keyboard player?

No .. really .. Richard Tandy was the keysman in ELO but also played guitar and bass as well (he actually was originally hired as bass player) and it has recently come out that he played a couple of the tasteful, finger picked solos on a couple of ELO tracks (Strange Magic and Shangri-La in case anyone is interested).

Or do we want to stick to 'less known' and ignore 'obscure' .. ?



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not unknown but probably my favourite player ever is tommy bolin

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Good call, I was just thinking of him. His playing on Billy Cobham's Spectrum is amazing.

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Daniel Ash - He is experimental and covers a wide variety of styles and his live playing is tighter than an elephant in a Cinquecento

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The lady that played guitar for ash(Charlotte?) was a pretty cool guitarist. She played a lovely SG Jr. too!

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Charlotte Hatherly. Pretty stunning alround really

Hewesy

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I second Gabriela (from Rodrigo Y Gabriela). I saw them at the Jazz Cafe in Camden. Great player, and very easy on the eye as well!

I always liked Tommy Victor from Prong - he plays mint guitar, and quite a unique style.

I think Trey Spruance (Mr Bungle, Secret Chiefs 3, as well as playing on Faith No More's King For A Day album) is awesome! I saw him play with Secret Chiefs 3 last month, and was a complete master of the guitar, and several other strange stringed instruments (including a Turkish electric saz, on which he played death metal stuff!).

Plus, he is a great producer! You gotta check his stuff out! www.webofmimicry.com

Cheers,

Tom.

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Nicky Garrett (UK Subs)

Paul Leary (Butthole Surfers)

Fast Eddie Clarke (Motorhead)

William Zito

One of my MySpace friends - can't remember her name but she's a great guitar player

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Hey Yeah Paul Leary! Saw them recently - Mind blowing!

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Guthrie Govan and his otherwordly groove. Bit technical for some perhaps, but when he's loose and not teaching, he's bleedin' amazing. Can't wait till he finally outgrows the whole rock-fusion thing and dumps his current management.

+1 for Eric Roche too.

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+1 for both Stiv Hillage and Paul Rudolph!
My picks (no pun intended!) would also have to include Eugene Chadbourne, Robyn Hitchcock, Randy California (is he obscure enough for this?) and Steffy Sharpstrings.
I thank you.

So, judging by the people that are mentioned here - is it right to conclude there are no good guitarists from the whole continent of Africa, or Latin America?

BTW - I see BBC are starting a series on the guitar - I mentioned that idea to them 2 years ago and heard nothing - is there anyway to copyright an 'idea' for a tv programme?

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Micky Jones from the legendary Man Band - a very original guitarist - now sadly residing in a nursing home after having a brain tumor

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I think Trey Spruance (Mr Bungle, Secret Chiefs 3, as well as playing on Faith No More's King For A Day album) is awesome! I saw him play with Secret Chiefs 3 last month, and was a complete master of the guitar, and several other strange stringed instruments (including a Turkish electric saz, on which he played death metal stuff!).

Plus, he is a great producer! You gotta check his stuff out! www.webofmimicry.com

Cheers,

Tom.

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check out asva, and try and download the most recent live earth album, f*cking incredible. he is an absolute legend on 6 string bass (or baritone guitar). try and check out asva live, absolutely mind blowing. no one knows who they are though...

PM me, if you can't find any of the stuff and i'll send you links...

Most under-rated guitarists are / were excellent and didn't really 'make it'.

Don Felder however

1. Was lead guitarist for one of the worlds biggest bands
2. Played some of the most famous solos in popular music history
3. Played not merely simple pentatonic scales, but really complex and interesting phrasing, choice of notes - really beautiful tone and feel

Yet this guy amazingly got little recognition...everyone talks about Joe Walsh (a good guitarist certainly but nowhere near the calibre of Felder). TO illustrate my point, on the latest Eagles live DVD, Felder's replacement guitarist Steuart Smith plays 80% of the solos whilst Walsh playes rhythm guitar...And on the video for 'How Long' (latest Eagles hit song) Walsh mimes to the solo played by Steuart Smith on the record - really sad.

Finally on quite a few 'Learn to play the Eagles' guitar tuition books you see a cover picture of Walsh when 90% of the solos transcribed inside were by Felder.

Enough said - this guy was seriously under-rated...

Jay

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joey santiago from the pixies, particularly inventive sonically on trompe le monde imho

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i second this motion and put forward 'where is my mind' from sufa rosa as a part/sound that started a thousand bands.

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is it right to conclude there are no good guitarists from the whole continent of Africa, or Latin America?

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Rodrigo and Gabriela are Mexican.

Al McKay - if you need someone who can keep time.

Hothe Felithiano ith pretty thuper - ethpecially thince he`th blind.

He`th from Porto Rico, no?

Not thure why thpanith thpeakerth pronounce their eththeth ath "th".

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Hothe Felithiano ith pretty thuper - ethpecially thince he`th blind.

He`th from Porto Rico, no?

Not thure why thpanith thpeakerth pronounce their eththeth ath "th".

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Ivan, you really must remember to keep taking your medication.

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Mick Ronson was incredible too and my vote for best guitar solo for its amazing simplicity is his on Moonage daydream. Check that out again!

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Great call chap. One of the most sublime pieces of playing that I have ever heard. You just want it to go on forever. Haven't you ever wondered what else was played after the fade?

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Not really, but I would love to have heard the sonic mayhem that most assuredly ensued after James Williamson's solo on "Shake Appeal" was brutally faded out. One can only imagine what pitch his top two strings ended up at.

Two of my faves...

Louie Shelton (Guitar solo on Hello by Lionel Richie)
Alan Murphy (Level 42, Kate Bush, Mike and the Mechanics and Go West)

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Hothe Felithiano ith pretty thuper - ethpecially thince he`th blind.

He`th from Porto Rico, no?

Not thure why thpanith thpeakerth pronounce their eththeth ath "th".

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Ivan has turned into an Ivor...

Andy

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Mick Ronson was incredible too and my vote for best guitar solo for its amazing simplicity is his on Moonage daydream. Check that out again!

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Great call chap. One of the most sublime pieces of playing that I have ever heard. You just want it to go on forever. Haven't you ever wondered what else was played after the fade?

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Oh PLUS ONE!
A truly fine twanger often overlooked in the blahblah about him & Bowie anbd their fancy dress.

Come to think of it, a lot of the glam era guitarists were a lot better than we remember them being.

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What about the blonde one from status quo?

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What about the blonde one from status quo?

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Good call actually, both Quo guitarists are well known but probably never made a top 10 list despite their obvious skills.

Rick Parfit (blonde) is a great rythmn player
Francis Rossi (pony tail) is an accomplished lead guitarist.

Pretty great rock tone from a pair of Tele's too (and extra points to Rick for using 0.14 gauge strings on his!).

Hewesy

The late Michael Karoli from Can. Totally unique approach.

Jim

Dave Hill from Slade. And if you doubt me, listen to all the albums prior to Slade in Flame.

Andy

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+1 for Dave Hill.

Clearly his barnet was ridiculous but great tone and playing

Eric Bell : lead for Thin Lizzy until bursting off the stage, mid gig, in 1973.
The guitar on 'Whiskey in the Jar', that's Eric.

Dave Navarro
Midge Ure - if he's good enough for Thin Lizzy...
Nik Kershaw
Glen Tilbrook
Glen Campbell (after watching Jools last night!)

Hewesy

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