franciskimberley
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Roland D-50 emulation?
#768438 - 07/09/09 10:06 AM
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Anybody know of any Roland D-50 emulations or any piece of software that can achieve
similar results? Would I be right in thinking something like the wavetable one
out of the Korg Legacy Collection (forgive my lack of detail, I'm posting this at end of
my break at work!) or could I import the right sort of samples into something like
CamelAudio Alchemy? If so, where could I find such samples? Cheers guys
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Glenn Bucci
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I have one and love it. There are also additional sound cards you can buy to double the
sounds of the keyboard. I would personally look on Ebay for a used one....still love it.
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funkyant
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I wish there was a D-50 VST too!
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Tomás Mulcahy
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Two options: 1. A Roland V Synth with the D-50 card. You also get a
fantastically amazing synth. 2. A real D-50 and MIDIQuest XL. This gives you a
plugin sysex editor to talk to the D-50. These are as close as you'll get to an
actual plugin. You could also borrow a D-50, load in your favourite patches and sample it
with Sample Robot or similar.
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hi,
personally, i'd pick up a used jv1080. a lot of the jv std patches were
originally d50 sounds. the used mrkt for d50s has spiked recently to the point that
they're often getting higher prices than used fantoms. nuts, imho.
cheers,
d
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Re: Roland D-50 emulation?
[Re: dubbmann]
#768597 - 07/09/09 06:13 PM
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Roland VariOs with the D-50 card and as a bonus you also get a cool Vari Phrase sampler,
virtual JP-8 and TB-303 to boot...few years ago these were cheap as chips on ebay
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Tomás Mulcahy
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The JV 1080 is great, but it does not sound as much like a D-50 as the real thing. I have
both here at the moment. The D-50 was really a virtual analogue synth with sampled
attacks, lush chorus and crap reverb. The JV is sample based, no VA engine. You won't get
it to sound like Jarre's Revolutions, believe me! 
The Vari OS is an early version of the V Synth.
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The Elf
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Re: Roland D-50 emulation?
[Re: Tomás Mulcahy]
#768614 - 07/09/09 07:46 PM
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Quote Tomás Mulcahy:
The JV 1080
is great, but it does not sound as much like a D-50 as the real thing. I have both here at
the moment. The D-50 was really a virtual analogue synth with sampled attacks, lush chorus
and crap reverb. The JV is sample based, no VA engine. You won't get it to sound like
Jarre's Revolutions, believe me!
+1 I also have both a D-550 and a JV - the
description above is accurate.
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desmond
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Re: Roland D-50 emulation?
[Re: The Elf]
#768674 - 07/09/09 11:41 PM
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Yep, the D50 and JV-range have totally different engines and, bar the "Roland-esque" type
sound, share little in common...
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MadManDan
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Re: Roland D-50 emulation?
[Re: desmond]
#769266 - 10/09/09 11:25 AM
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+1 for the D-50 because it is also a solid keyboard controller
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desmond
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Re: Roland D-50 emulation?
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#769269 - 10/09/09 11:30 AM
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Really? I thought it's crappy keyboard response and scow scanning mechanism made it a
rather sluggish keyboard, even just when sending MIDI...
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funkyant
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I use a D70 (same keyboard mech) as a controller and love it.
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Tomás Mulcahy
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Who said it was slow? Sounds like a myth to me.
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desmond
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Re: Roland D-50 emulation?
[Re: Tomás Mulcahy]
#769512 - 11/09/09 09:21 AM
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And the D70 was even slower...
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DJW
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Re: Roland D-50 emulation?
[Re: desmond]
#769527 - 11/09/09 09:40 AM
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I have a JD990 which has some good D50 emulations.
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The Elf
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Re: Roland D-50 emulation?
[Re: DJW]
#769529 - 11/09/09 09:45 AM
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Quote DJW:
I have a JD990 which
has some good D50 emulations.
The
JD-800/JD-990 are a refinement of the D-50/D-550 to a great extent. There's definitely a
family likeness. The JDs sound so much smoother.
But the reason I keep a
D-550 around is that it has a certain 'something' the JD's lacked. Try finding an
equivalent of the D-50's sublime 'Glass Voices 2' on a JD - you will not find it!
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Tomás Mulcahy
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Ya, at that time the only modelling technology Roland used was in the D-50 for the
analogue synth part, and the MKS piano module and the its keyboard version. Then no
modelling at all until the JP 8080. The weird modelled filter in the D50 is a large part
of the sound. And the converters-very bright sounding. Then the digital chorus, that has
the usual Roland magic. It all adds up to a synth that can sound surprisingly huge!
Checkout "KOKUBOSTRINGS" it's all over Jarre's "Revolutions" album.
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DJW
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I do miss the "Digital Native Dance" patch on the D50, though.
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The Elf
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Re: Roland D-50 emulation?
[Re: DJW]
#769632 - 11/09/09 03:52 PM
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Quote DJW:
I do miss the "Digital
Native Dance" patch on the D50, though.
Never thought I'd hear anyone say that! How many of us edited out the
percussive loop?! 
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Amusikaido
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I found some more examples here - makes interesting listening. I'm almost tempted to go
and buy a second hand D50 now! I did own the smaller brother, the D10 and it had some very
nice timbres but suffered badly from polyphony problems and an iffy MIDI implementation
when being used multitimbrally. http://bobbyblues.recup.ch/roland_d-50/d-50_examples.html
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Tomás Mulcahy
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Re: Roland D-50 emulation?
[Re: Amusikaido]
#769646 - 11/09/09 04:28 PM
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The D10 sounds completely different. Smaller. I suspect the converters are not as good,
and possibly the microprocessor was slower, so the VA and chorus bit is not calculated as
well as it is on the '50. That said, I never tried to match patch parameters.
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desmond
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Re: Roland D-50 emulation?
[Re: Tomás Mulcahy]
#769663 - 11/09/09 05:37 PM
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My favourite D-50 patch by far was "Soundtrack" - a great patch that again was used
everywhere. Another Eric Persing classic, as was much of the D-50 voicing. A
while back I analysed it (without a D-50 handy) to recreate it on my XV-5080. It's sort of
a work in progress - the XV doesn't have exactly the same structure as the D-50, but it
does have the D-50 waveforms necessary, and I got close, though with still some work to
do. It's very dynamic, so recreating how it responds to velocity and key scaling is a
little tricky without having a D-50 to play with. I remember when the D-50 came
out, I was like "At last! Now hopefully the DX7 can DIE!!"...
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