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Arpangel
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Lexicon LXP 15 ? new
      #774156 - 28/09/09 04:20 PM
Hi all, well, I'm only here because I have problem....and no one else will help me (people are so horrible sometimes) Those gearslutz people completely ignore me for some reason ? What have I ever done to them ? nothing ! I answer again...nothing !
Anyway, I have an LXP15, and I'm wondering if it has a fault, the parameters, especially the delay times, are very variable depending on the algorithm, some only go up in 1 ms steps, and others in much larger increments, I eventually found a suitable algorithm that allowed me to adjust delay times in large amounts for longer times, but I'm wondering if it's possible to alter the resolution of the knob, I can't seem to find that anywhere though ?

Tony.


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Re: Lexicon LXP 15 ? new [Re: Arpangel]
      #774168 - 28/09/09 05:16 PM
Had a quick google and found a DL of the manual if that's any use :
http://www.manualnguide.com/download/manual-guide/lexicon-lxp-15-multi-eff ects-processor-owners-manual.html

As for GS , I think it is a casualty of it's popularity and rapidly filling with beetz prodoocers .


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Re: Lexicon LXP 15 ? new [Re: Yago]
      #774199 - 28/09/09 07:07 PM
Quote Yago:


As for GS , I think it is a casualty of it's popularity and rapidly filling with beetz prodoocers .




HA HA !

Oh well, things change.

Thanks for the manual link, I did download one, it doesn't say anything about how to change the resolution of the edit knob. But hey ! I think it's just Lexicon's idiosyncratic interface ! I know they make some great reverb units, but sometimes they do leave me a little baffled about how to access them ! Like the user interface was an afterthought !

Thanks again,

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Re: Lexicon LXP 15 ? new [Re: Arpangel]
      #774205 - 28/09/09 07:28 PM
Sorry to ask the obvious , but ...... have you emailed Lexicon ?


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Re: Lexicon LXP 15 ? new [Re: Arpangel]
      #774223 - 28/09/09 08:46 PM
Don't know the definitive answer, but...

...wouldn't it make sense for the knob to change resolution based on the potential width of the parameter? If the reverb time was 0.1 to 1 second then maybe the knob would go in 0.1 second increments - if it went from 1 to 10 seconds it might go up in 1 second increments. a dumb example, but you get the gist. So a 'Hall' preset might have wider incremental steps than a 'Room' preset.

That would seem perfectly sensible to me.

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Re: Lexicon LXP 15 ? new [Re: Arpangel]
      #774249 - 28/09/09 10:19 PM
Hi Tony, I was recently wondering where you'd disappeared to. Gearslutz is full of idiots, don't take any notice!

I've always found the knob on mine to be fluid and occasionally annoying. It seems to depend on how fast you twist it. But yours sounds faulty?

In the manual they describe how to wire up potentiometers to the five pedal inputs on the back. Very simple. I've done this and it gives finer control, and loads of realtime tweaking fun. PM me if you need more info.

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Re: Lexicon LXP 15 ? new [Re: The Elf]
      #774290 - 29/09/09 06:43 AM
Quote The Elf:

Don't know the definitive answer, but...

...wouldn't it make sense for the knob to change resolution based on the potential width of the parameter? If the reverb time was 0.1 to 1 second then maybe the knob would go in 0.1 second increments - if it went from 1 to 10 seconds it might go up in 1 second increments. a dumb example, but you get the gist. So a 'Hall' preset might have wider incremental steps than a 'Room' preset.

That would seem perfectly sensible to me.




Yes, you are "sort of right" ! I have spent a night in bed reading the manual ! You have to use the page knob, to move through the different editing pages associated with a particular algorithm, I didn't realize this, I thought each preset only had one edit page, not six ! It turns out there is a high(course) and a low (fine) setting for each delay parameter, I thought hi and low was something to do with the damn EQ !!!
This set-up isn't obvious though, and I do find that editing with this piece of kit a bit cumbersome compared to others I've used. I mainly use software these days, and bought this on a whim because it was cheap, but I've got so used to the immediacy and visual ease of VST's that using hardware now seems like very hard work !

Tony.


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Re: Lexicon LXP 15 ? new [Re: Tomás Mulcahy]
      #774313 - 29/09/09 08:22 AM
Quote Tomás Mulcahy:

Hi Tony, I was recently wondering where you'd disappeared to. Gearslutz is full of idiots, don't take any notice!

I've always found the knob on mine to be fluid and occasionally annoying. It seems to depend on how fast you twist it. But yours sounds faulty?

In the manual they describe how to wire up potentiometers to the five pedal inputs on the back. Very simple. I've done this and it gives finer control, and loads of realtime tweaking fun. PM me if you need more info.




My knob makes a clicking noise ( )



A distinct and sharp click, it's not quiet and smooth, you can hear it clicking as it goes round, does your's do the same thing ?


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Re: Lexicon LXP 15 ? new [Re: Arpangel]
      #774318 - 29/09/09 08:31 AM
Please, don't start me, I'm remembering old VIZ magazines, I'll get Tourets!!

But no, mine does not make a sharp clicking sound. It's soft.

OK...

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Re: Lexicon LXP 15 ? new [Re: Tomás Mulcahy]
      #774336 - 29/09/09 09:20 AM
Quote Tomás Mulcahy:

Please, don't start me, I'm remembering old VIZ magazines, I'll get Tourets!!

But no, mine does not make a sharp clicking sound. It's soft.

OK...




Hi, OK, try this, call up a preset that uses the Dly/Rvb algorithm, turn the set-up knob up to the first edit page "Dly/Rvb" third along you have "delay 2" parameter, this is for pre-delay, it should go from 0-980us up to 1 millisecond, and then go up in 00.01 millisecond steps, very slowly to 100ms. Now, for a main parameter like pre-delay that's ridiculous, as I often want to use values in excess of 100ms !
Please could you check this out on your unit, just to see if it's the same ?

Tony.


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Re: Lexicon LXP 15 ? new [Re: Arpangel]
      #774344 - 29/09/09 09:48 AM
OK, mine is the mark 2 version. That might explain why I've no idea what you mean about "6 pages" maybe they changed the user interface as well as the sound?

On mine, delay 2 goes to 179 ms, glide delay goes to 638 ms.

Try phoning around distributors for the mark 2 EPROMS maybe?

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Re: Lexicon LXP 15 ? new [Re: Tomás Mulcahy]
      #774356 - 29/09/09 10:27 AM
Quote Tomás Mulcahy:

OK, mine is the mark 2 version. That might explain why I've no idea what you mean about "6 pages" maybe they changed the user interface as well as the sound?

On mine, delay 2 goes to 179 ms, glide delay goes to 638 ms.

Try phoning around distributors for the mark 2 EPROMS maybe?




OK, mines a MK1 and hear are the edit "Pages"....six of them in blue around the top....



You step round them to see whats editable on the currently loaded algorithm. The values you describe are the same on mine, I don't think this has a fault actually, it's just the way it is, I think I'll look around for a MK11 chip, but they are hard to find now

Tony.


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Re: Lexicon LXP 15 ? new [Re: Arpangel]
      #774363 - 29/09/09 10:54 AM
O right, mine's the same. I never thought of them as pages. I find it quite an intuitive machine, especially with the 5 extra control knobs:


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Re: Lexicon LXP 15 ? [Re: Tomás Mulcahy]
      #774377 - 29/09/09 11:24 AM
Quote Tomás Mulcahy:

O right, mine's the same. I never thought of them as pages. I find it quite an intuitive machine, especially with the 5 extra control knobs:





Tomas, I reckon it may be just as worhtwhile to look out for a second hand MK11, if one comes up. I payed very little for this one, and I could always sell it on.
I also just visited your website, fantastic ! I love the upright piano samples ! I can imagine playing those a lot. What form are they in, I'm not very sampler-savvy, I have the E-MU Proteus VX ? would they load into that ?

Tony.


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