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Tell you what, put in some of your own research and opinions and we'll put in some of ours.

Those questions where my own... Thanks for the sarcasm, Great to see that a new member to SOS is treated with such respect, but ill Bite on this occasion

I think that as Recording technology has progressed over the years its become easier and easier for artists to record and produce music to be delivered to the masses. The recording Industry has created cheap and efficient products for your every day artists to record with E.G the Mbox 2 at roughly £180that comes with pro tools, this can be bought by anyone and gives the Individual access to an industry standard piece of equipment, granted he wont be trained in all of its uses but what this means is that anyone, anywhere today can get their music recorded and on the internet for the masses to hear where as 30-40 years ago (say 1960) you wouldnt of been able to afford any piece of high end equipment like this.

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Those questions where my own... Thanks for the sarcasm, Great to see that a new member to SOS is treated with such respect, but ill Bite on this occasion

I think that as Recording technology has progressed over the years its become easier and easier for artists to record and produce music to be delivered to the masses. The recording Industry has created cheap and efficient products for your every day artists to record with E.G the Mbox 2 at roughly £180that comes with pro tools, this can be bought by anyone and gives the Individual access to an industry standard piece of equipment, granted he wont be trained in all of its uses but what this means is that anyone, anywhere today can get their music recorded and on the internet for the masses to hear where as 30-40 years ago (say 1960) you wouldnt of been able to afford any piece of high end equipment like this.

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Learnt a lot in 3 years haven't you

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Those questions where my own... Thanks for the sarcasm, Great to see that a new member to SOS is treated with such respect, but ill Bite on this occasion

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So will I....did you read this thread ....which is most likely why you were asked to express some of your own opinions first.....

The thing is, even that statement is old news now - yeah yeah, digital age, blah blah - I think most people have gotten over it by now....

...the question you should be asking/researching/writing a paper on is:

'with the onset of cheap hard/software, allowing for a glut of bedroom wannabees all thinking they're a producer, are we awash with raw talent creating ever more innovative ways to make music with this incredible array of resources at their fingertips or we are infested with cheap soundalikes all trying to emulate the sanitized, over-produced, marketed-to-hell-therefore-creating-the-illusion-it-is-the-only-sound-worth-making celebrity product we are told to like?'

Discuss...

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The thing is, even that statement is old news now - yeah yeah, digital age, blah blah - I think most people have gotten over it by now....

...the question you should be asking/researching/writing a paper on is:

'with the onset of cheap hard/software, allowing for a glut of bedroom wannabees all thinking they're a producer, are we awash with raw talent creating ever more innovative ways to make music with this incredible array of resources at their fingertips or we are infested with cheap soundalikes all trying to emulate the sanitized, over-produced, marketed-to-hell-therefore-creating-the-illusion-it-is-the-only-sound-worth-making celebrity product we are told to like?'

Discuss...

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Both statements are correct, The downside is that the good is getting harder to find from the bad because nobody knows where to get their opinions from.

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Both statements are correct, The downside is that the good is getting harder to find from the bad because nobody knows where to get their opinions from.

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"nobody knows where to get their opinions from"

I don't know about you but I form my own opinions.

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Hahaha, sorry its late.....

I meant recomendations, ie music press spend most of their time watching the blogosphere trying to tab the latest trends before anybody else and then claim they brought it to the masses.

Ofcourse some friends can be useful funnels these days I find, ones that spend hours trawling the internet becuase they are "into" music.

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The thing is, even that statement is old news now - yeah yeah, digital age, blah blah - I think most people have gotten over it by now....

...the question you should be asking/researching/writing a paper on is:

'with the onset of cheap hard/software, allowing for a glut of bedroom wannabees all thinking they're a producer, are we awash with raw talent creating ever more innovative ways to make music with this incredible array of resources at their fingertips or we are infested with cheap soundalikes all trying to emulate the sanitized, over-produced, marketed-to-hell-therefore-creating-the-illusion-it-is-the-only-sound-worth-making celebrity product we are told to like?'

Discuss...

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Both statements are correct, The downside is that the good is getting harder to find from the bad because nobody knows where to get their opinions from.

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A different analogy, but the same sentiment "There's a new band in town, but you can't get the sound, from a story in a magazine!".

Non-objective reviews, a la 99% of "bias-free" websites make it almost impossible to read an uncoloured review these days.

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The thing is, even that statement is old news now - yeah yeah, digital age, blah blah - I think most people have gotten over it by now....

...the question you should be asking/researching/writing a paper on is:

'with the onset of cheap hard/software, allowing for a glut of bedroom wannabees all thinking they're a producer, are we awash with raw talent creating ever more innovative ways to make music with this incredible array of resources at their fingertips or we are infested with cheap soundalikes all trying to emulate the sanitized, over-produced, marketed-to-hell-therefore-creating-the-illusion-it-is-the-only-sound-worth-making celebrity product we are told to like?'

Discuss...

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Both statements are correct, The downside is that the good is getting harder to find from the bad because nobody knows where to get their opinions from.

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Ya damn tootin, they're getting harder to find! My observations are that even 'underground' acts now are trying to emulate the 'sound' of the mega-marketed, believing it's the only way to get any kind of exposure, also believing the same exposure will propel them into mega-stardom....of course forging ahead with your own unique, if a little low-fi, sound is like cheese-grating your own knob these days - relentlessly painful, with absolutely no decent outcome.
Whereas times of hardship used to be a creative outlet, producing some of the finest works throughout history - it all seems a little staid now - does the fear of failure outweigh the desire to be unique?

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Those questions where my own... Thanks for the sarcasm, Great to see that a new member to SOS is treated with such respect, but ill Bite on this occasion...

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I wouldn't take this too much to heart. People here are very happy to help but they don't want to spend their lives writing other people's assignments for them. You've probably already worked out that this stuff is quite hard work if you want a great result, so anything that whiffs of student underhandedness is given pretty short shrift. Typically it's better to come clean and discuss one's thinking.

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I think that as Recording technology has progressed over the years its become easier and easier for artists to record and produce music to be delivered to the masses. The recording Industry has created cheap and efficient products for your every day artists to record with E.G the Mbox 2 at roughly £180that comes with pro tools, this can be bought by anyone and gives the Individual access to an industry standard piece of equipment, granted he wont be trained in all of its uses but what this means is that anyone, anywhere today can get their music recorded and on the internet for the masses to hear where as 30-40 years ago (say 1960) you wouldnt of been able to afford any piece of high end equipment like this.

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Leaving aside whether this is a study project or just for your own interest, you might want to do a search on some of the posts made by Narcoman on this forum. He's a seasoned pro and talks about alot of things you might find interesting:-

1) The democratisation of the technical process of recording; including it's pros and cons.
2) The kit he has worked with in the past, which in the early days was quite basic.
3) The kit he works with now, which is often very high spec.
4) How he maintains his margin in a world where freelancing, undercutting, loss leading and free leading (of freeloading) are often the norm.

I think you might also want to make a distinction in your thinking in general between:-

A) The record industry: The process of securing viable talent, producing product for market, then marketing and distributing it;
B) A subset of (A) The recording industry: the process of talent tracking and mixing material from talent then mastering it to viable product stage; and
C) The recording equipment / sytems / software industry: which according the the amount of sunshine in your world view (and perhaps the firm concerned) can be anything from hopeless money pit through high-end boutique equipment manufacturers to toymakers for the masses.

One thing that has not changed is that it takes ear, skill, patience and diplomacy to track the right source material for a good mix; and that's only when the talent and their material is up to scratch. Griming things up is fine in context, but if the material and the source is below par, the product is not going to be much to tell your friends about.

Reg

Joe

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"How Has The Recording Industry Has Had To Change To Make Changed To Meet The Demand Of The Digital World."


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Its had to change (or contract massively) for 2 reasons.

1) Computers, plugins, warez and chinese manufacturing have made studios without top quality rooms and engineers obsolete

2) Less money in recorded music because of rampant piracy

The only positives are .. hard disk space is cheaper than tape, plugins are cheaper than outboard .. editing is easier with pro tools, autotune allows crap singers to sing in tune.