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Acoustic Dude



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How much to charge as a solo act?
      #819185 - 16/03/10 11:07 AM
Hi all
I know this sounds like a daft question, but I am about to hit the local bars and pubs in Bournemouth after many years out of gigging. I played for over 20 years but that was a drummer in a band. I haven't gigged for nearly 6 years and this time, i am going out as a solo acoustic act (guitar and mandolin). My question is, how much is the going rate for a solo acoustic act? I know London would be better for rates, but Bournemouth is a kicking town for live music too. I don't want to under sell myself!!

I would appreciate any thoughts on this.


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paulprogram



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Re: How much to charge as a solo act? new [Re: Acoustic Dude]
      #819225 - 16/03/10 01:36 PM
Depending on the playing times... about £100-120 for two hours and a few encores

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The Bunk



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Re: How much to charge as a solo act? new [Re: Acoustic Dude]
      #819247 - 16/03/10 02:17 PM
...as above, maybe a little more towards £200 shouldn't be too much to ask. Depends on the venue too...

...love the avatar by the way. One of my top five albums. Is that where the mandolin comes in??!


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Acoustic Dude



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Re: How much to charge as a solo act? new [Re: Acoustic Dude]
      #819268 - 16/03/10 03:05 PM
Yes, i was thinking between £100 - £150 so thats cool.

Yes, the Avatar has something to do with the mandolin, well spotted!! I certainly have a few Steve Earle songs in there, 2 of which I play on Mandolin. The Galway Girl and Johnny Come Lately. The man is a genius...


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Ed_J90



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Re: How much to charge as a solo act? new [Re: Acoustic Dude]
      #819764 - 18/03/10 03:07 PM
One man shows, are usually 150-200 pounds in UK still....

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The Bunk



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Re: How much to charge as a solo act? new [Re: Acoustic Dude]
      #819775 - 18/03/10 03:21 PM
..Dude - if you're ever up London way, let me know. I'd love to see that. Earle is a legend. I'll join you on an acoustic on any of his stuff..!


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Re: How much to charge as a solo act? new [Re: Acoustic Dude]
      #819780 - 18/03/10 03:34 PM
Woopee! Steve Earle is ace. I met him once, we were playing the same festival. Managed to give him a copy of our album and get a photo taken with him.

I think you should do Copperhead Road with just a mandolin and a bass drum. That would be unbeatable.

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Ed_J90



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Re: How much to charge as a solo act? new [Re: Acoustic Dude]
      #819841 - 18/03/10 07:00 PM
Start gig with copperhead

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Ian Savage



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Re: How much to charge as a solo act? new [Re: Acoustic Dude]
      #819849 - 18/03/10 07:40 PM
If you've got a halfway-decent demo of you doing your thing, I'd be tempted to tout it around a few local venues, offering yourself at, say, fifty quid a night as a 'promotion'. Promote the hell out of it yourself (get friends and family down to swell the numbers if needs be), the venue owner will take a load more over the bar than they usually would (hopefully), then up your price to a ton at least (more if you're providing the PA yourself).

That's the way I've done it, anyway.


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grab



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Re: How much to charge as a solo act? new [Re: Ian Savage]
      #819960 - 19/03/10 09:46 AM
I'd say £100 as the low end. But yeah, *do* have a demo. For demo purposes, it's quite likely that just a webcam mic would be adequate for guitar and vocals, so long as it demonstrates you doing your thing with a decent level of skill.

And having your own PA will greatly expand where you can play. Not many pubs have their own PA; and if they do, they're usually music pubs where they'll have several bands on a night, none of whom get paid (or don't get much if they do). But if you can set up a PA and play well for 2 1/2 hours, no reason you can't ask £200 a gig, especially if you give them a couple of gigs at a lower rate (don't go below £100 if you're doing everything) to get to know you.


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Ed_J90



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Re: How much to charge as a solo act? new [Re: Acoustic Dude]
      #820163 - 20/03/10 12:02 AM
Surely having own PA is a must I cant believe people still wouldnt automatically have one?

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grab



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Re: How much to charge as a solo act? new [Re: Ed_J90]
      #820651 - 22/03/10 11:27 AM
Yeah, but for folks starting out, even a small PA is a big deal. Yer acoustic-guitar-slinger might want to start gigging but doesn't have the gear yet, especially if they're just taking the step from folk clubs and open-mics to proper gigs. Or starting out on their own after being in a band, when they'd always relied on another band member to provide the PA.

For the OP, if it's an acousticky gig and you're in small pubs, you can get quite a long way with a little guitar amp and mini-mixer for vocals and guitar, if you've got no PA. Not going to sound as good (unless you've got a pretty trick acoustic amp), but it's better than nothing, especially if it's more for sound reinforcement. I'd rather hear a good version of Steve Earl through a practise amp than a bad version of Bob Dylan through a PA.


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Re: How much to charge as a solo act? new [Re: Ed_J90]
      #820658 - 22/03/10 11:43 AM
Quote Ed_J90:

Surely having own PA is a must I cant believe people still wouldnt automatically have one?




It depends where you are. I find that city pubs that put on regular music tend to have a house PA whereas more out of town venues tend to expect you to bring along a PA.

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Acoustic Dude



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Re: How much to charge as a solo act? new [Re: Acoustic Dude]
      #821846 - 26/03/10 09:12 PM
Just to clarify, i do have a brand new PA system. I bought the QSC K8 speakers. I'm going to run my acoustic guitar, mandolin and vocals through my Korg D1600 MkII then out to the speakers. Got my first gig in two weeks so looking forward to that! I do play Copperhead Road on Mandolin but I haven't included it in my set as i prefer playing Galway Girl and Johnny Come Lately. I've also got Someday and Telephone Road in the set so i can't do any more Steve songs! I've just worked out Colarado Girl from his Townes album but thats not his song so I can get away with that! If I could go out as a Steve Earle tribute, i would!


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Re: How much to charge as a solo act? new [Re: Acoustic Dude]
      #822265 - 29/03/10 09:24 AM
Quote Acoustic Dude:

Got my first gig in two weeks so looking forward to that!




Why not spill the beans and tell us where it is?

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Acoustic Dude



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Re: How much to charge as a solo act? new [Re: Acoustic Dude]
      #822922 - 31/03/10 12:59 PM
Its in Harry's Bar, Durdle Door in Lulworth, Dorset on April 8th. Got some more interest over the weekend to play in Bournemouth so I hope the gigs to be coming in thick and fast!


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Re: How much to charge as a solo act? new [Re: Acoustic Dude]
      #825322 - 09/04/10 12:36 PM
Presumably you're doing all covers in your set?

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Acoustic Dude



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Re: How much to charge as a solo act? new [Re: Acoustic Dude]
      #825476 - 09/04/10 09:31 PM
No, I have 3 originals in there. I could do two sets of originals to be honest but I want to do mainly covers with some of mine thrown in. If I get a name for myself around the local scene, then I can start throwing in some more originals.


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GlynB



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Re: How much to charge as a solo act? new [Re: Acoustic Dude]
      #825985 - 12/04/10 10:22 AM
Quote Acoustic Dude:

No, I have 3 originals in there. I could do two sets of originals to be honest but I want to do mainly covers with some of mine thrown in. If I get a name for myself around the local scene, then I can start throwing in some more originals.




I think that's a good approach.

if folk enjoy your covers performances and the audience builds, they'll have the patience to not just 'sit through' your originals, but even enjoy and request them...assuming they're good enough to sit alongside the classics.

Then you end up in the very pleasant situation of being paid to perform your own material, albeit sandwiched between covers.

I'd be wary of doing too many covers of relatively obscure songs and stick to well known stuff, if you're planning to include originals. That way the punters who don't like yours won't have to wait too long for something more familiar.

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Exalted Wombat



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Re: How much to charge as a solo act? new [Re: GlynB]
      #825997 - 12/04/10 10:59 AM
Be careful. Audiences want to be entertained, not educated. Dilute what made you popular at your peril!


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