Has SoS thought about having a regular column on Cockos Reaper? I think it would be worth it.

Paul

Should SoS have a Reaper column? You may choose only one Yes No

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I've used Cubase for yearsm and really just stumbled across Reaper. All I can say is WOW! This program is so powerful, deep, and configurable. I've noticed in SOS that a number of tunes sent in for mixing were tracked in Reaper. I, for one, will renew my subscription if a Reaper column is added.

C'mon Paul, just do it.

-Rich

i believe it already exists, albeit in fledgling form, but is rotated over a few months with digital performer and reason or something along those lines...

eg, there's only space for one each month, and they alternate which one it is...

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i believe it already exists, albeit in fledgling form, but is rotated over a few months with digital performer and reason or something along those lines...

eg, there's only space for one each month, and they alternate which one it is...

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Sorry, this isn't correct. Currently, there's no dedicated Reaper column, and there didn't appear to be a huge appetite for it in our recent reader survey. However, we do cover tips and tricks in Reaper quite regularly in the Mix Rescue articles, and we will of course continue to review the situation.

Matt.

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damn, i could have sworn i'd seen a reaper notes a few months ago....


oh well....


given the speed of reaper's growth in the market since the last reader survey, i'd suggest that the view should be reappraised....


and i'm NOT a reaper user....

(Logic, Protools, Cubase, Nuendo , and about once a year, Digital performer, but not reaper at present.)

Quite a lot happens in Reaper in the course of a month. It's probably a good idea to go in to a little detail about the developments in the Reaper world, such as new additions and authors to the SWS extension project, or the great new trick NAS came up with to doing automation items, sort of .

Let's face it, nothing like this happens in other DAWs or their communities. I'd love to be wrong about this obviously. Just look at Protools where the poor users have to scream for fixes.

So, Reaper has a couple of great MIDI editor features just out. Padre joined the SWS extension project with his LFO-for-envelopes/audio/midi generating actions, Tim himself(sws) has written much wanted smart cut/copy/remove/split actions after a user resubmitted a request for them a day earlier, Jeffos added actions to cut/copy/paste fx chains in and out of slots for tracks and items, and NAS found a nice way to use parameter modulation to enable clever control of parameters via the volume fader of other tracks.

That's less than two weeks of news, and I haven't even mentioned details of the last huge changelog of v3.4 yet. AATranslator is about to pop out OMF and Protools 5 export of Reaper sessions too. Enough for a news column and the occasional Tips and Tricks column ? We think so.

Edited by Airon (30/03/10 05:05 PM)

If this was added I would subscribe. Reaper is adding features on a daily basis so there would be no shortage of material to write about.

I'd love to see a REAPER notes. I learn something new almost every time it is used for Mix Rescue, and I'm a professional user...

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Might it also help to have a dedicated section on the forum... given that it's updated fast enough to be one step ahead of any print magazine workshops?

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Might it also help to have a dedicated section on the forum... given that it's updated fast enough to be one step ahead of any print magazine workshops?

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I don't think that the SOS forum needs splitting up into such fine detail. If you want detailed help on Reaper then their own dedicated forum is available and tends to be one of the friendlier forums on the net.

There are also plenty of us Reaper users around on the SOS forums to help with any basic queries.

Cheers

James.

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I was just about to put a request in for "Reaper Notes", when I realised there must be more of us using it, and it would have been asked before.

I used Cubase from the very first Atari ST version, and abandoned it at v.4. Since then I've been very happy with Reaper.

So would the mag reconsider a "Reaper Notes" feature ?

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damn, i could have sworn i'd seen a reaper notes a few months ago....

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Max m8... months fly by... last thing on Cockos Reaper was a product review back in August 2009:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug09/articles/reaper3.htm

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...given the speed of reaper's growth in the market since the last reader survey, i'd suggest that the view should be reappraised....

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It is being re-appraised. As we found with the furore that erupted from unhappy DP users of the site, when we removed Digital Performer Notes from its monthly status, there are always way way more online readers who never buy the magazine but read the DP articles online for free when they get unlocked after 5 months.

The same people rarely ever complete Reader Surveys, which is a real pity -- if they did then we'd get better insight into what SOS mag is NOT doing that they would like us to cover. (We can guess what a wider audience wants, and we use popularity of threads and gear sold in readers ads etc to give us unattributed guide data, to assess viability or not of our ongoing ideas.)

This Mag Feedback forum is very useful lifeline to such non-print/non-eSub/non-Digital Edition readers, and we do read every post, and discuss at planning and strategy meetings.

Ian

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Quite a lot happens in Reaper in the course of a month. It's probably a good idea to go in to a little detail about the developments in the Reaper world, such as new additions and authors to the SWS extension project, or the great new trick NAS came up with to doing automation items, sort of

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That's one of the major issues we have with any DAW column that is designed to work for Print readership (and gets converted in eSub and Digital Editions after).

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Let's face it, nothing like this happens in other DAWs or their communities. I'd love to be wrong about this obviously. Just look at Protools where the poor users have to scream for fixes.

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Precisely. It's so fast-moving, with feature changes quicker than most commercial DAWs (well that's how it feels to me when I've looked at it).

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.... That's less than two weeks of news, and I haven't even mentioned details of the last huge changelog of v3.4 yet. AATranslator is about to pop out OMF and Protools 5 export of Reaper sessions too. Enough for a news column and the occasional Tips and Tricks column ? We think so.

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A Cockos Reaper Notes column might well attract more paying subscribers and newsstand buyers. Sorry to raise the commercial head of the beast, but independent mags like us have to assess where extra revenue may come from when we add pages to the magazine, or elect to leave something out.

We've just added 16 editorial pages (May issue onwards) every month for a Video section for musicians to be incorporated. This is a gamble we think will pay off. Why? Because SOS needs to expand into related areas, and Reader Survey and posts in our Music Business and Web Music forums show there are non-subscribers who we might attract, and frankly there isn't a decent print mag covering this in the UK consumer market anymore. Some great online websites, but nothing to read in print/eSub formats.

The fastest way SOS would introduce a regular Reaper Notes feature would be if enterprising writers who use it, step forward and contact us -- or send us an example of a proposed column they'd like to get published. Nothing is written in stone at SOS -- we adapt to address the audience's needs, always have done, that's why we've survived for 25 years. Mike Senior uses Reaper frequently (in his MIX RESCUE articles) but Mike's busy doing our major workshop articles and their audio files, so we'd hate to lose him from doing this by tying him up with a monthly Reaper Notes committment (it's keeping up with all the CR news that's the time-eater)... so we'd need new/other writers to step forward.

Cockos Reaper Notes mailing list - make your voice heard

SOS has created a dedicated Reaper Notes dedicated SOS mailing list. Sign up for our Reaper Notes mailing list and we'll see how much genuine interest there is - you never know, Reaper Notes may become a reality.

The list is accessible from within your MY ACCOUNT > MyEmail page for registered users of the forum/site (see My SOS menu at top-right of forum pages, or go here if logged in: https://www.soundonsound.com/UserAccount/Newsletters.php )

cheers,
Ian G
Managing Director/Founding Editor/Forum Admin

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SOS Podcasts

Done !

Done!

http://www.reaper-blog.com

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http://www.reaper-blog.com

Just subscribed, I would love to see Reaper notes, I have a lot of students of mine now using reaper too and it would help them no end!

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Cockos Reaper Notes mailing list - make your voice heard

SOS has created a dedicated Reaper Notes dedicated SOS mailing list. Sign up for our Reaper Notes mailing list and we'll see how much genuine interest there is - you never know, Reaper Notes may become a reality.

The list is accessible from within your MY ACCOUNT > MyEmail page for registered users of the forum/site (see My SOS menu at top-right of forum pages, or go here if logged in: https://www.soundonsound.com/UserAccount/Newsletters.php )

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[Geordie voiceover on] "Day 4 in the forum household, and the forum members seem reluctant to sign up to the spanking new mailing list that tells SOS that you are seriously interested in us adding another frequent tips&techniques software column devoted to all things CockOS. Only 27 members of the household have shown interest so far.." [/Geordie voiceover off]

The list will not be used to spam you - merely to notify you IF Reaper Notes becomes reality, that we are doing it or not doing it.

We'll give it till the end of May to see how the numbers stack up... so far, it echoes the 2009 Reader Survey results ie. low interest.

Ian G

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SOS Podcasts

Just subscribed, didn't know until today that this was in existence. I'd like to point out that if you leave it too long to introduce a REAPER note section, it will make the magazine look somewhat behind the times I'm surprised you're still debating it Ian -I thought it would be a question of when, who was writing it and how do we fit it in an xx-page issue...

I'm looking forward to it when it arrives

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planet nine
lincoln, uk.

Please...

This would be a *good* thing!

bb

Edited by bbradbury (23/04/10 10:44 AM)

Reaper is rapidly becoming the "one" so.....Pleeease

cliff

I've been a regular reader of SOS for years and am now a regular subscriber. Over the past few years SOS has not only decreased in physical size, but in the number of pages as well. I've seen it occur in nearly every audio-related print mag. My hope is that SOS will not go the way of these other magazines and eventually fade out. Frankly, I beleive SOS is the best on the market and adding a Reaper notes column would only enhance that standing. The survey and sign-up for Reaper notes process is not a scientific way to determine interest. More anectodotal really. Wht not try a Reaper Notes section for 6 months or so and see if it has any effect on circulation? If page count is a big concern, why not reduce the size of a few other sections and make room for Reaper notes? That way noting is deleted and something is added.
I'm fairly new to Reaper, but I've already learned this is a deep and powerful program. I think you'll be pleasantly surpried at the positive repsonse you'll receive after adding Reaper Notes.

-Rich

Judging by the number of PT peoplr that have come over to Reaper, Ièd say YES! We need a dedicated column. Reaper just keeps getting a larger and larger user base. Great idea!

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I'm reader of SOS and would buy more issues (or even subscribe) if Cockos Reaper Notes were included on a regular basis.

Edited by Buster2 (23/04/10 12:35 PM)

Hope this happens and goes into the publication.
Anything to make it better is good.

Just signed up.

Pete

awesome..I just found out about this. Just signed up!

count me in

I've subscribed to SoS for a couple of years, and would be very pleased if a Reaper Notes section were added. Mike Senior's Mix Rescue is the first article I read each month, as it has the most Reaper content.


Thanks

Ian - I feel strongly enough about this to return from the Forum wilderness just to vote a resounding YES. I would take out an esub agaib if there was a reaper notes every month.

Subscribed.

Exposing the strengths and weaknesses of Reaper, in particular when working with video, is a good thing to me.

I began my subscription for the cubase notes.
I am 3 years into reaper now, and my subscription is about up.

Reaper Notes = Renewal for me.
the easiest way to make a great magazine better - and keep it relevant.

greetings
.tallis

I support the idea. I'm even willing to help on the column if you need someone who can provide you with tips and tricks and/or explanations of new features in detail.

If (or rather when) this come true, I will surely subscribe.
So... yes please.

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One small point of order. On the subject of format I suppose. The Cubase and Reason articles in SOS have been in depth studies into a fixed programme which can then be used as a map for further exploration, referring back to the article when things get a bit involved. After the review of Reaper 3 I revisited Reaper, played with it for a couple of days, bought it and enquired about a Reaper notes section. The answer at the time was that given the rapid rate of updates any traditional "notes" atricle would be out of date by the time it was printed.

This reply made sense at the time and since then has become more valid as Reaper seems to gather momentum (I'm sure in no small part to Mike Senior's enthusiastic and intelligent vote of confidence and subsequent inspiring Mix Rescue articles).

The Cockos forum seems to do the "keeping up to date" bit pretty well and any "notes" section would have to do something that the forum doesn't. Perhaps a filtered summing up or intelligent intepretation of posts would be useful, particularly to those of a delicate disposition like myself for whom the language in the Cockos forum might be a bit fruity (I'm a lady, you know).

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Guys, can I remind you all of this:

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Cockos Reaper Notes mailing list - make your voice heard

SOS has created a dedicated Reaper Notes dedicated SOS mailing list. Sign up for our Reaper Notes mailing list and we'll see how much genuine interest there is - you never know, Reaper Notes may become a reality.

The list is accessible from within your MY ACCOUNT > MyEmail page for registered users of the forum/site (see My SOS menu at top-right of forum pages, or go here if logged in: https://www.soundonsound.com/UserAccount/Newsletters.php )

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I know many of you have already signed up to this mailing list, but for the others who have voiced their opinions here but not yet signed up -- please do so before the end of May cut-off date. This will provide the evidence of a body of support that we need to take this Reaper Notes column idea forward...

Thanks

Hugh

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I know that the Magazine Feedback forum is the right place for this... but I know many people don't lurk here that often. Might it be worth drawing attention to this in the main MRT, Mac and PC threads? You may get more responses that way... and if not, then you can't really be in any doubt about the lack of interest!

I've been pondering this since last night. I'd plonk a post in MT and PC to attract the attention, but I didn't know if that was inside the rules or not. If it's cool with the mods I'll do that, or you can Mixedup.

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planet nine
lincoln, uk.

Yes, yes, yes!

We need a Cockos Reaper section in SOS.

I have Reaper 3 and sometimes move over from Nuendo 4 to mix some of my work and for me it's fantastic in the sense that a empty mansion is better to work with than a fully furnished house. This makes Reaper open for a full tinkering but also means that it can be a little unusal to grasp for those that are used to the other DAW software which are tailored to be used in a certain way.

So please take note SOS and start featuring hints and tips on this brilliant 'open-ended' DAW software.

I'm a logic user, but i have had a play around with the demo version and i have to say, i thought it was amazing!

And i'd love to see a reaper notes section in SOS.

Its a good choice of software for people starting out on a budget, and they're obviously the kind of people who would benefit most from a notes section.

Plus as others have mentioned, they are always bringing out updates so they'd be loads of stuff to write about.

and lastly i'd like to add that a notes section is kind of a nod of respect to the software itself, the developers and users about the capabilities and the professional results that can be had from using Reaper.

Come on SOS, you know you want to!

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Ready Eddie?
Bingo Gringo!

I agree. There should be a Reaper notes in SOS. I've been a long time user of SONAR and came across Reaper as a result of its feature in SOS. I cant believe this DAW offers so much for such a modest price.It's my "go to" for all my projects now. Also appears to have developed a strong following so really deserves a "notes" of it's own in SOS!!!

Colin