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DIY 8 bit sampler
#731918 - 05/05/09 03:58 PM
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Thats right, a DIY 8 bit sampler. http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/01/wheres-the-party-at-bendable-open
-source-8-bit-sampler-now-shipping/http://narrat1ve.com/ I fancy having a go at that once
i've finished my amp  I have no
real use for one, but its cheap and looks like fun to fool around with. Paul
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Re: DIY 8 bit sampler
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#731940 - 05/05/09 04:59 PM
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First post! This looks like the perfect DIY project to add to my studio. I
grew up with the C64 and still love the sound of 2,4, and 8-bit samples  Ordered one straight away - here's hoping I can assemble it before the 2012
Aporkalypse.
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Re: DIY 8 bit sampler
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#732224 - 06/05/09 02:24 PM
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Nice  I
saw a little video of the prototype doing its thing, and it looks like huge fun, and
really quite versatile. Definitely crunchy! I emailed the guy last night about
postage costs to the UK. If its reasonable, i'll get me one  Paul
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Re: DIY 8 bit sampler
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#732398 - 07/05/09 12:50 AM
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Looks like these will be popular, and from what I read he's only made 200 kits, so i just
ordered one  It will have to wait to be built until my amp project is finished
however. Paul
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Re: DIY 8 bit sampler
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#732416 - 07/05/09 07:09 AM
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Hey Paul,
Do you have a link to the vid?
ken
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Re: DIY 8 bit sampler
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#732627 - 07/05/09 01:33 PM
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Quote Ken Long:
Hey Paul,
Do you have a link to the vid?
ken
I don't blame you for asking. The guys website looks like it was
hurled together by a blind quadriplegic 4 year old toddler. Although he's written
everything in quite an amusing manner  I only
found 2 vids, and 1 of those I couldn't get to play. Vids should all be in here: http://narrat1ve.com/LejendaryAdventures.html
1: http://narrat1ve.com/images/WTPA_095_vs_The_Knife.mpg 2: http://www.narrat1ve.com/images/WTPA.mp4
There could be
more vids lurking in there that I didn't find yet??
Paul
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Re: DIY 8 bit sampler
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#732633 - 07/05/09 01:57 PM
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Thanks Paul,
Yes, that website is a bit of a mess so thanks for digging these
out.
ken
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Re: DIY 8 bit sampler
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#738390 - 27/05/09 02:18 PM
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Well the rest of my amp bits still have not arrived, but the sampler kit is here! So im
gonna get busy with that today. Cant wait to give it a go..  Paul
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Re: DIY 8 bit sampler
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#738578 - 28/05/09 02:49 AM
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Done! Works a treat too.. I'll add the midi sockets once I decide how to mount the board
and connectors. At the moment it works great as it is. Imagine a very grungey 8 bit loop
pedal.. I'll post up some audio examples sometime  It sounds
even grungier(?!) than I expected from 8 bits. But in a cool way, for the most part. The only thing I changed was to swap out most of the red leds for blue ones. Im
looking forward to fooling around with this thing some more! Paul
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Re: DIY 8 bit sampler
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#738813 - 28/05/09 08:10 PM
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Now stuffed into a suitable case. The case being a handy Sennheiser microphone case that I
had knocking about. Talk about luck, it fits in there perfectly!
The
worlds first Sennheiser sampler...
Paul
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Re: DIY 8 bit sampler
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#827822 - 18/04/10 05:50 PM
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Im not sure many folk are really interested in this stuff here, but just in case.. Since I made this, there has been 2 soft/firmware updates. The most recent is pretty
nifty, as it adds some more features that even most decent hardware samplers never had
back in the day. The main one being looping, but with the added ability to shuffle
the entire loop window back & forth. I believe the old Ensoniq Mirage sampler could do
this. But few, if any others. This is clunky to do via the samplers existing controls as
they are crude, but it all works via midi too, which is far more effective. Todd (Its creator) is working on a new version of the sampler which should be available
by the summer too. It will still be a glitchy 8 bit mono sampler, but with more tricks up
its sleeve  Paul
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Re: DIY 8 bit sampler
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#827871 - 19/04/10 02:36 AM
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Hi Paul, I'd love to see a little vid of you tweaking this beast, as the ones around
don't really advertise the musical applications very well. It loads multiple samples,
yeah? Do they interact rhythmically? I can hear the bit-reduction stuff happening, but
what does the window function sound like?
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~Paul
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Re: DIY 8 bit sampler
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#828010 - 19/04/10 02:26 PM
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Hey Adam, I don't really have video recording facilities im afraid. But im sure I
can rustle up an audio demo sometime, like I did for the x0xb0x recently. I need to smooth
out how to work it via midi first though! (the midi side of the WTPA is straightforward,
but im new to in depth midi in Logic) It can work with 2 samples at a time. But so
far, I only use it with one at a time (then mangle the living daylights out of it!). But
one of the effects does work on both sample banks simultaneously. I'll paste that section
of the manual here: OUTPUT RECOMBINATION = Hold S5 and press S2. This takes
an input value from 0-3 (from the pot) and affects the way BOTH banks work. The different
values do this: 0 = Sum the banks during output. This makes normal audio. 1 =
Multiply the two banks together for output. Modulates and saturates, and requires two
samples to be playing back (ie, multiplying by 0 is always silence). 2 = Bitwise AND
banks during output. Crusty. Requires valid samples in A&B. 3 = Bitwise XOR the
banks. Doesn't sound weird with only one sample.To be blunt, that doesn't
make a whole lot of sense to me. Im sure i'll understand whats going on better once I try
it!  Also, this version of the WTPA has no feature for saving and loading samples. You
kinda have to do it all on the fly. But thats all part of the charm of the thing. You'll
never get the same sound out of it from 1 day to the next. That said, the next version
should have some kind of flash ram storage function on it I believe. As for what the
window function sounds like.. It's a little hard to describe, but it's pretty radical
sounding to my ears! Put simply, you are just moving the start and end loop points in sync
with each other, while the sample is playing. So you can move the loop window around to
hear any part of the sample you want. When I get around to doing some kind of audio demo,
i'll be sure to try and get this in there too  In short, it's a glitch sampler. Designed and built to screw with samples in the rawest
most digital way possible. It also works a lot like a loop pedal, so you can get some
pretty crazy loops out of the thing. You rarely get out of it what you thought you might
get out of it. But it is one of those "Happy Accident" machines. IE, Keep messing with it,
and you'll get something silly cool and useable out of it eventually! Cheers,
Paul
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