Well it was fatal for my laptop computer.

My wife borrowed my laptop, and called me a half hour later to "fix" the computer. It was popping up all kinds of screens telling me my credit card details were being hacked right now, and demanding $10 to get the 'fix'

It had disabled Windows 7 security, Microsoft Security Essentials, and my firewall settings.

I could do nothing. When I re-booted it was in my face again immediately, rendering the computer unusable.

In a fit of temper I put my fist straight through the screen, smashing it clean off its mounts and sending it clear across the room.

That felt so good that I took the body of the laptop and smashed it to smithereens on the flagstones on the patio.

"It's fixed" I informed my wife, who was in fit's of laughter, then I dusted off my Apple Mac and told her I'd give her a hundred quid and a new computer if she could get the same problem to appear on the Mac. She can't do it.

What do you have to do? latest OS, latest Microsoft Security Essentials, and still stuffed!!

Bollox to PC's from now on - I've had enough.



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The only excuse we have for making music in the first place is to make it differently..vis-a-vis our own difference (Glenn Gould)

And my hand still hurts

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The only excuse we have for making music in the first place is to make it differently..vis-a-vis our own difference (Glenn Gould)

I had the same problem with my office PC a few weeks ago (also my other half at the helm...). It took me ten minutes to recover the system drive from the image copy taken a few days before...

Of course, physically destroying it would have been slightly quicker still!

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i used to throw my toys out the pram & break things like that when i was 6

I'm sorry for your troubles!

I suppose I'm lucky that I still have the child in me, - it's priceless!



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I'm sorry for your troubles!

I suppose I'm lucky that I still have the child in me, - it's priceless!

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it seems the child in you has turned out to be expensive rather than priceless on this occasion though

For reference:

Turn on machine > Press F8 during boot up and enter safemode with networking > Open up Browser and goto trend Micro > Run housecall online > Reboot > Use as normal.

You got a trojan judging by the what happened which has to be downloaded by the user via an e-mail attachement or some other file, and thus makes the firewall useless and renders the OS part of the arguement moot as well.

MS security essentials also comes under the heading of useless as far as prevention goes no matter what tripe their marketing team trots out.

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I once lived in a developing country in Latin America. I lived on quite a remote farm, and further up the trail was another even more remote farm. Every Sunday, after a session on the rum, Pedro passed through our farm on the way back to his. He was woozily balanced atop his donkey, his wife, carrying a sack of rice on her head, suckling a couple of babies, another baby slung on her back, two bags of shopping and a trail of kids hanging onto her being pulled along hollering, midering and blubbing.

I asked Pedro, how come your missus isn't riding on a donkey?

Pedro replied "She hasn't got one"

The moral of the story is....Get a new wife that has her own laptop, what kind of sites has she been visiting!!!!! LOL

Thank you. I've made a note of that.

I don't normally use a PC for the net, my wife does, and has endless trouble, that I normally can sort out, or can swap in a cloned drive.

This was quite an old laptop though (and not expensive!), which did not have easy access to the drive, so I didn't clone it.

She has totalled a laptop and a desktop previously, and is now on her second desktop (cloned drive in the drawer below)

She only surfs facebook, myspace, gmail, and the like, but she regularly gets whatever flavour of virus is currently infecting the PC world.

I see on another thread that this latest vicious barsteward got onto the tcelectronics website!

I much prefer my PC's for loads of reasons, but for the net? no thanks.



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The only excuse we have for making music in the first place is to make it differently..vis-a-vis our own difference (Glenn Gould)

Ban her from opening e-mails.

Job Done

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Get her a Linux based Lap/net book they quite capable for facebook email social networking et al.
Plus you dont get the glazed eye, dazed, out of pocket experience that is Apple mac. Nor the bullying, clunky, virus riddled nonsense that is Microsoft.

Given the popularity of iPhone OS, I don't think it'll be long before we see some nasty viruses there too!

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Too true. The's already some kicking about for the Mac (including some very nasty Trojans) but you unless your foolish enough to be using extremly dodgy warez sites it appears the people trying to infect macs are still having trouble getting suitable delivery systems in place.

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In a fit of temper I put my fist straight through the screen, smashing it clean off its mounts and sending it clear across the room.

That felt so good that I took the body of the laptop and smashed it to smithereens on the flagstones on the patio.

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Respect ! There are many, many items of technology I've often wanted to do that to ....



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tell your wife not to click on even remotely sounding suspicious links on facebook etc. the number of times i get spam from friends who have been hacked saying something like "hi!!! this video is really funny, check it out!" [link to fake site full of trojans]
In short, trust no one!

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so, how does this make you feel?

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Well it was fatal for my laptop computer.

My wife borrowed my laptop, and called me a half hour later to "fix" the computer. It was popping up all kinds of screens telling me my credit card details were being hacked right now, and demanding $10 to get the 'fix'

It had disabled Windows 7 security, Microsoft Security Essentials, and my firewall settings.

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Has it really???

Alternatively, the PC isn't properly setup and your wife has clearly been on a website that she shouldn't have been, probably peer-to-peer.

Well done It's Howdy Doody.
Your anti virus methods may be crude but very effective. You definitely destroyed that virus. you kicked it's butt.

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Hi:

A bit drastic when it could easily be fixed.

If this sort of thing happens to anyone else - even if you can't boot into safe mode; try this:-

10-tips-for-getting-rid-of-stubborn-malware

Pest

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Imagine what you will know tomorrow...

Hi Pest, not one of those 10 tips involve violence. Are you a hippy?
Never ever go easy on a virus. Sometimes you gotta get hard with these guys. Flagstone hard!

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Edited by Stan (30/04/10 07:32 PM)

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Well it was fatal for my laptop computer.

My wife borrowed my laptop, ....

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lol this is like on doctor's forums when someone posts "a close friend of mine has gone this embarrassing problem", innit?

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Well look dude you came of lightly it could of been herpes.

To$$er. Where did that warped thinking come from, second thoughts don't bother.

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To$$er. Where did that warped thinking come from, second thoughts don't bother.

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It came from not believing a single word you typed, mainly.
But also from cynicism, worldly experience, and a dry sense of humour.
Be seeing you.

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Where's the puke graemlin when you need one, worldly experience and dry humour my ass!!




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Can we pick sides yet? I'm with Howdy - Feline, you can come across a little acerbic sometimes...

Cheers!

Chris

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Pete are you saying that this is a reliable online virus recovery resource, available free of charge? If so, that's awesome.

What exactly does it do?

Regards
Glenn

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Congratulations! I've always wanted to this!!!

Someday I will

Quote GlennKay:

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Open up Browser and goto trend Micro > Run housecall online > Reboot > Use as normal. .

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Pete are you saying that this is a reliable online virus recovery resource, available free of charge? If so, that's awesome.

What exactly does it do?

Regards
Glenn

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NOD32 is very good, it is only available for a months free trial. I used it once to shift a virus that AVG let through and wouldn't delete, and then once I cleaned the machine, continued to use it for the remainder of the 30 days and then uninstalled, and the uninstall is quick and complete unlike Norton/Symantec and MacAfee etc. I then installed Avast, used to like AVG till it got bloated and let me down - not as if I could ask for my money back though LOL

On that thought - if I bought some antivirus software, kept the av database up to date and did all other updates etc and a virus got onto my computer - could I ask for a refund? because the software wouldn't be fit for purpose. Thats why I use freeware as much as I can these days, most the bought software doesn't do as promised anyway

To OP

Did you have an A/V active?

I have a PC laptop in the lounge that my wife uses, eight year old and five year old (they're good kids they never damage the laptop;-)

All three of them are hopeless PC users though, they open every thing going and download games and all sorts of cr*p!!

I stuck PC Tools Spy Dpctor Anti-Virus on the laptop and have never had a single infection.

I am even happy to do my banking on line on that machine.

I highly recommend SDAV it really does do it's job.

Best
Treeb's

My wife is incredibly naive, hardly surprising since she comes from a tiny island called Fanning in the equatorial pacific. We've been married 3 years and living here in England for 18 months. She really has taken big time to the comms possibilities of computers, and keeps in touch with her countrymen on a page called Kiribati Online Community.

The thing is, while I lived in Kiribati (pronounced Kiri-bas) there was a sporadic internet connection available to locals who could afford the 4 dollars an hour government fee. BUT everyone had every virus going, and those fortunate few who had laptops and or pen drives would rapidly infect the whole island in a few days.

I think my wife gets these viruses from that source still. But to be honest I'm no great shakes either at knowing how to avoid them, and this thread has shown me stuff I really didn't know, for which I'm grateful. My comments about the mac reflect this, in that (for now at least) it's harder to get a virus on the mac. As I say though, for tons of reasons I prefer my PC's for music and recording.

I did manage to record lots of locals while I was there though, and those people love to sing. It was an unusual experience though. No-one had heard of the Beatles for example.

I showed a whole bunch of people how to use a vocoder (on my Nuendo 2) to emulate the Cher played vocal that was just out at the time and fascinated the locals no end.

I digress, but I have noted all the suggestions, as my wife still has her desktop PC which I'd like to keep virus free.








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Where's the puke graemlin when you need one, worldly experience and dry humour my ass!!

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Humouring your ass is not the issue, mister.
Quite frankly, unless you can produce a marriage certificate,
I shall continue to doubt whether you even had a computer in the first place, never mind a wife.


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Dear me, maybe it's all that headbanging?

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Nah that's not it - I just checked your website and it explains everything!!




Really - You HAVE to get out more




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Nah that's not it - I just checked your website and it explains everything!!

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Yes, it contains all the facts in the world!

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~~~ A weasel hath not such a deal of spleen as you are tossed with! www.feline1.co.uk ~~~

Dude

It is a big picture of YOU, and you're GINGER, and a GEEK.

Now go away little boy and get a LIFE

WOULD SOME MODERATOR PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD BECAUSE I'VE HAD ALL THE HELP I NEEDED BEFORE THIS COMPLETE JERK HIJACKED IT

Thanks!

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Dude

It is a big picture of YOU, and you're GINGER, and a GEEK.

Now go away little boy and get a LIFE

WOULD SOME MODERATOR PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD BECAUSE I'VE HAD ALL THE HELP I NEEDED BEFORE THIS COMPLETE JERK HIJACKED IT

Thanks!

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That's a bit mean, but then I guess he did question whether your wife existed, which is unnecessarily rude...

Soooo...to sum up. Guy gets angry with inanimate object, decides to break it, is then informed it was fixable. Possibly feels a little silly and then begins an embarassing (for both parties) forum name calling episode. I thought I'd accidently logged into the cubase forums it was that bad. To the mods, is it possible to delete a thread, but keep petes info somewhere, that I found useful.

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Wait a minute William, this is what I got from feline:

lol this is like on doctor's forums when someone posts "a close friend of mine has gone this embarrassing problem", innit?


It came from not believing a single word you typed, mainly.
But also from cynicism, worldly experience, and a dry sense of humour.
Be seeing you.

Humouring your ass is not the issue, mister.
Quite frankly, unless you can produce a marriage certificate,
I shall continue to doubt whether you even had a computer in the first place, never mind a wife.

And what? - you think I'm at fault? you think I wont respond to that?

So I broke my laptop - big deal! the point I'm making is that people will get these viruses and some of them (like ME) will not be technical enough to deal with them, and if they don't physically break them in temper, will just have to close them down and put them away until someone who knows how will fix them.

Guess what?

This thread showed me how. It's just a pity I had to put up with the anal comments listed above in the process.

If you wanna be judge and jury - at least get your facts straight.

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The only excuse we have for making music in the first place is to make it differently..vis-a-vis our own difference (Glenn Gould)

My wife finally tired of slow, crashing Windows (XP) and all the assorted problems. She had me install Ubuntu Netbook Edition on her laptops, and has been fine ever since.

Another option is (free) Sun VirtualBox running Ubuntu Linux - Linux on Windows for netsurfing mainly. Managing photos, printing etc. is on Windows.

Works fine :-)

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Thanks Wossname

I'm downloading Sun Virtualbox as we speak, I'll install it this evening. Sounds just right for Bintonga (me missus)


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The only excuse we have for making music in the first place is to make it differently..vis-a-vis our own difference (Glenn Gould)