Hugh's review is the best possible review you will ever read on these monitors from the guy who knows them very well. Very detailed about all the ins' and out's, comparing them to the old amps was very nice to read in the review.

Though there is strong competition out there, I think these would be my first choice if I could afford to upgrade my monitors right now. They do cost less than the Klein + Hummel O 300 too. If the price was the same I would probably go with the 0300's, but in the US the lower price difference is enough for me to want the PMC's. The Digidesign monitors are also very good as well. However many do not know about them, and we are not sure how long they will be carrying these monitor especially with Digi being bought out by Avid.

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Glenn, Digi have been owned by Avid for years. The only thing that's changed is the branding. Considering that they're a hardware company who see little direct profit in software only products, and considering that their primary product Pro Tools HD makes increasingly less sense in the marketplace as hardware, it stands to reason that they will want to keep the monitors and likely expand the range.

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You could be right, however I would feel better owning monitors like PMC or Klein & Hum. which are company's who are known for making high end monitors. Digi is better known as a company attached to Pro Tools than high end monitors. Yes I know it's an emotional response, but for me a valid one since we have so many options theses days as Hugh pointed out.

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aren't the Digidesign monitors designed and made by PMC?

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I believe so, yes.

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Glenn - have you read Hugh's review of the Digidesign monitors? I don't think I've ever read a more enthusiastic review from him. As he explains in the review - they're basically PMC's with a Digidesign label on them.

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Yes I am aware of all that info and both would offer you great detail and help you to hear your mixes well. The emotional side of my brain though wants speaker company on the monitor and not Digi regardless of who makes them. Just a personal preference

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Glenn - have you read Hugh's review of the Digidesign monitors? I don't think I've ever read a more enthusiastic review from him. As he explains in the review - they're basically PMC's with a Digidesign label on them.

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True, although there are still some notable differences between them. Like the Digi's being front vented, the PMC's being rear vented instead. Im thinking front vented must be better for various reasons.. I expect it would make them a little less fussy about their proximity walls and general positioning? Which is something my PMC's seem a little prone to.

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There's an interview (by Hugh Robjohns if memory serves) over here with the bloke in charge of PMC that discusses the collaboration.
I've used the smaller RM1s and was very impressed, the main problem with the RM speakers was the price - possibly due to the number of different companies involved (Avid, PMC and I suspect a third party class D amp specialist) there were a lot of people to get paid and so it wound up in a price bracket with some very steep competition. There do now appear to be periodic blow outs on the range over in the states which might indicate they're about to be discontinued, or it might just be dumping any old digi branded stock to facilitate the avid rebrand. Either way a month or so back you could pick up a pair of RM2s for $1299, which is an insane deal. Would have bought some in a heartbeat but the bank account was frustratingly empty that week. Definately worth keeping eyes peeled at any rate.

Where did anyone have a pair that cheap? I would buy then in a heartbeat for that price. They go for over $3,500 at places on the Internet

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Alto Music. Actually I've just had a look and they've still got the RM1's at $839. I think delivery is $150 or so and then you need to add on 22.5% for VAT and customs (I think speakers have 5% duty). Still a decent deal even so. I've never ordered from them so do your research etc..

Oh just noticed you're in the US so supa-bargain in your case.

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The Digi RM1/2 were designed and built by PMC, and in some ways used as a development test bed for new active PMC products which will start appearing later this year and next year.

The ATL venting thing is interesting. All of PMCs speakers vent to the front except the DB1 and TB2, and they only vent at the back becasue of the way the line had to be folded. When Pete developed the RM1/2 that was something he specifically wanted to address (for all the reasons you suggest), and hence they also vent to the front.

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Dang it they are sold out. I was told they are disconinued. Oh well another reason why I would want the PMC's.

Actually my mixes with my Tannoy Pre 8's have been very good and I have been pleased (and so have my clients). However part of the reason my mixes have came out so good is the acoustic treatment I hav in my studio with GIK bass traps, panels and Auralex combined. Still I would like to have higher end monitors which would allow me to hear things better like reverb tails, and details as such.

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Glenn you should check out Focal Twins too.

Monitors can be very personal and hugely room dependent sometimes. With huge respect to Hugh and the others who painstakingly review these products your only sensible course of action is to get the distributor or retailer to send you monitors for periods of not less than a week each. You have to work using the monitors and see which way they push you. Eg you might tend to make things softer rather than harder. A hard monitor will therefore be a mistake because you'll make things really soft. Make a short list, try the monitors and then compare your work on them using your old speakers.

Trust me, I had 0300ds for three years. We all know how good they are but I didn't do my best work on them. They're too bottom endy for me. I mixed bass light on them. The factors are the monitor, the room and you yourself.

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I heard the Focal Twins and I don't like their tweeters.

I do agree about having monitors in your room for a while to see if they fit the sound your looking for. I would never buy monitors that would not give at least a 7 day trial period. Actually I have gone through 3 pairs of Tannoy's (stepping up each time) and I am very used to their sound. The Tannoy Ellipse 10 IDP would be the most logical monitor to go to next. But at this point, my studio is staying more as a hobby as with my kids being young, I would rather spend time with them, than with clients at night and weekends. Though I do anticipate recording my son playing his trombone and guitar in the near future. My Tannoy Prec 8's are still pretty good though. I have to admit though I will need another Portico EQ (so I can have a pair) for 2 bus mixes, and drum bus first.

Please bear in mind this post was commenting on the PMC's and Hugh's great insightful review.

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Edited by Glenn Bucci (18/06/10 08:35 PM)