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jonpuget



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Alesis Ion unresponsive keys new
      #841766 - 22/06/10 07:20 PM
Hey all,
I have an Ion with one octave of keys that do not work, I have searched online but to no avail.
So I'm just wondering if anyone would have any pointers on fixing this with a little DIY
Thanks


J


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BJG145



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Re: Alesis Ion unresponsive keys new [Re: jonpuget]
      #841849 - 23/06/10 08:04 AM
I haven't seen an Ion, but you'll probably find that there are several ribbon-type cables between the keyboard and the main board. Might be worth trying some contact cleaner and reconnecting. Yahoo Groups are often a good source of information on specific keyboards.

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Re: Alesis Ion unresponsive keys new [Re: BJG145]
      #841942 - 23/06/10 03:26 PM
Quote BJG145:

I haven't seen an Ion, but you'll probably find that there are several ribbon-type cables between the keyboard and the main board. Might be worth trying some contact cleaner and reconnecting. Yahoo Groups are often a good source of information on specific keyboards.

Service manual





cool thanks man
I'll give that a shot


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Re: Alesis Ion unresponsive keys new [Re: jonpuget]
      #842039 - 23/06/10 11:34 PM
Looking at the service manual, there are two connectors from the keyboard assembly to the main board. I don't know the Ion, but when I had to open my Roland A30 I found that there were actually two keyboard assemblies with separate ribbon connectors. One of the techniques they use to offer different versions of the same synth/controller with different numbers of keys.

So, make sure BOTH connectors or correctly seated at both ends. Part number 40-70-0021 in the manual, 16 pin ribbon cables.

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Re: Alesis Ion unresponsive keys new [Re: zenguitar]
      #842147 - 24/06/10 01:52 PM
Quote zenguitar:

Looking at the service manual, there are two connectors from the keyboard assembly to the main board. I don't know the Ion, but when I had to open my Roland A30 I found that there were actually two keyboard assemblies with separate ribbon connectors. One of the techniques they use to offer different versions of the same synth/controller with different numbers of keys.

So, make sure BOTH connectors or correctly seated at both ends. Part number 40-70-0021 in the manual, 16 pin ribbon cables.

Andy




Thanks
I just checked that they were seated correctly and they are...
No improvement , It's just the keys from C5 up to F5
There are little resistors on the back of the keys, I will check these as soon as I pick up my multi-meter which is elsewhere at the moment.
Any other ideas to what it might be?


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Re: Alesis Ion unresponsive keys new [Re: jonpuget]
      #842255 - 24/06/10 10:33 PM
Quote jonpuget:

Quote zenguitar:

Looking at the service manual, there are two connectors from the keyboard assembly to the main board. I don't know the Ion, but when I had to open my Roland A30 I found that there were actually two keyboard assemblies with separate ribbon connectors. One of the techniques they use to offer different versions of the same synth/controller with different numbers of keys.

So, make sure BOTH connectors or correctly seated at both ends. Part number 40-70-0021 in the manual, 16 pin ribbon cables.

Andy




Thanks
I just checked that they were seated correctly and they are...
No improvement , It's just the keys from C5 up to F5
There are little resistors on the back of the keys, I will check these as soon as I pick up my multi-meter which is elsewhere at the moment.
Any other ideas to what it might be?




Those little resistors may well actually be diodes. I know the Fatar keybeds have some kind of diode matrix before going off to the encoder chip (and I do know previous Alesis keybeds were in fact Fatar

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Re: Alesis Ion unresponsive keys new [Re: MarkOne]
      #842419 - 25/06/10 02:59 PM
Quote MarkOne:



Those little resistors may well actually be diodes. I know the Fatar keybeds have some kind of diode matrix before going off to the encoder chip (and I do know previous Alesis keybeds were in fact Fatar




Thanks for that,
any idea what might be causing this?


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Re: Alesis Ion unresponsive keys [Re: jonpuget]
      #842476 - 25/06/10 09:17 PM
Was it working, and then abruptly failed...? Is the missing octave at one end of the keyboard...? And did you try a factory reset? Doesn't sound hopeful but must be worth a go. Have you checked whether the silent keys transmit MIDI...?


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