Hi all,

Got a Linndrum here and need to sync it to Logic. I know the trick of sampling the SYNC output and playing it back through the input but is there a MIDI retrofit available or a dedicated converter that will let me do this so I can retain position info?

Thanks for looking.

ken

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I'm All Ears.

Maybe a dumb idea, but...

How about setting up a simple VSTi that plays a click/pulse and triggering this from a MIDI track playing 24 notes per quarter note?

The shape/length of the click/pulse is going to be critical, of course, as is the MIDI timing, but...

...worth a shot?

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An Eagle for an Emperor, A Kestrel for a Knave.

Not dumb at all! That's what I was referring to above - you can sample the pulse and play it back using a softs sampler but Stopping and Starting the Master will put the Linn in PAUSE mode - ie, doesn't bring it back to the top of the sequence and does not remember its song position.

I was hoping for a MIDI kit. It seems Kenton do this as does Forat.

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I'm All Ears.

Ah, I geddit!

Hmmm... Can't see how you'd get the 'continue' to work. Interesting thought...

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An Eagle for an Emperor, A Kestrel for a Knave.

OK, it seems the Pro Solo Mk2 will do this from the AUX.

Still doesn't solve the song positioning. I wouldn't expect it to find the correct position straight away but it should play catch up to the master seq.

ken

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I'm All Ears.

Not a current model, but the Kenton Pro-4 manual says...

THE ARP CLOCK & SYNC 24 OUTPUTS
CLOCK PULSE - (arpeggio clock)
- this output provides a 5 volt clock pulse related to the incoming MIDI clock. The ratio of MIDI clocks to
arpeggio pulses can be adjusted - (see CLOCK PULSE DIVIDE).
A 5 volt voltage will be outputed on the first MIDI clock after a MIDI start (or continue if selected) is
received, and thereafter dependent upon the CLOCK PULSE DIVIDE ratio.
You may wish to connect this to an input marked Ext. Clock In on an analogue drum machine or
sequencer. It could also be used to gate/trigger envelopes or Sample and Hold circuits in time to MIDI
clock.
SYNC 24 - (DIN 24 sync, used on SOME ROLAND equipment)
- this output provides clock and stop/start signals.
Pin 1 - Stop = 0 volts Start = 5 volts (or continue if selected)
Pin 3 - 5 volt pulses; 24 clocks per quarter note, the same as MIDI
Pin 2 - Ground
Pins 4 & 5 are not used.
==
So it mentions 'continue' for Roland machines, but that would be a feature of the receiving machine. I don't imagine the Linn will have this ability. Back in the day we had to use SPP and MTC to get a drum machine to pick up mid-song - long after your Linn's heyday.

So I imagine you'll have to set to top of song manually.

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An Eagle for an Emperor, A Kestrel for a Knave.

Thanks Elf.

I think I'm just in denial. Possible hangover from SMPTE sync from tape!

The Mk2 Pro Solo will do this also. I suppose it will mean a workflow using pen and paper to identify bar changes where fills or pattern changes will be required. No big deal but might slow things down a bit.

ken

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I'm All Ears.

Of course, you could just sample hits/loops from it...

(stands well back...)

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An Eagle for an Emperor, A Kestrel for a Knave.

You know. I might just have to ban you for a short period Elf, just so you can get a grip on things again, what with the recent GS relapse incident and now this, sacre bleu!

Get a grip man.

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Samplecraze
Stretch That Note

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I'm All Ears.

I sync my Linndrum via a Kenton Pro Solo II. It works exactly as you'd expect: Kenton Aux out -> Linn Sync in. As long as you set the Kenton's sync mode correctly (48ppqn) and arm the Linn before starting, it'll lock just fine.

Also, what has been said above is correct: you do have to manually reset to the top of a pattern/song when you restart. There's no facility on the Linn to do so from external control.

The other way to 'sync' a Linn is to assign the external trigger inputs to the sounds you want and trigger them via some MIDI-trig device. Haven't tried that with mine yet.

Thanks for the confirmation Nathan!

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I'm All Ears.

No trouble. Actually according to the manual you can use audio to trigger the sounds, but again, I haven't attempted it.

It's also pretty easy to forget to enable MIDI clock output from your DAW...

Thanks - I've got a MIDI template set up for this.

Cheers!

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I'm All Ears.

For further info if anybody's interested, here's an online transcription of the user manual:

http://www.chriswareham.demon.co.uk/linndrum_manual.html

Not mine, so I can't vouch for it's accuracy.

There's also this:

http://www.robothustle.com/dork-it-out/linn/LinnManual.html