I cannot get to www.sosawards.com

trying to get to it from this page:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sosawards
says:
"Voting opens on 23 September to 30 November"

it seems it should be up and ready to rock, but it's a dead link.

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That's odd... it works for me, but then I'm based in the UK. I'll check whether the link works from US IP addresses tomorrow morning!

Cheers,

Chris

it worked. up until the point that i read the rules....


based on those rules, strictly speaking, not one audio professional is eligible to vote or win.

well I just get this:


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oh it looks like it's banning USA IP addresses... I can get to it with a proxy server. does that mean I'm not eligible?

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Quote idris y draig:

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based on those rules, strictly speaking, not one audio professional is eligible to vote or win.

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Hmmm.... that depends on your interpretation. You'd have to be speaking *very* strictly...

I presume you're thinking of the term 'business associate'? Well, if you're purchasing products, or sourcing products from those companies, then you're a customer, and I couldn't see any court agreeing that such a relationship could lead to one being defined as a 'business associate'.

I know some people work freelance writing manuals, or getting commission on products they sell in the course of their work... that is quite obviously a direct business relationship.

I suppose the woolly ground would be where one is providing services gratis to said companies — where there's no element of consideration (unless you argue that the prestige or experience of doing the job counts!). E.g. forum moderation; work experience/intern placements and so on.

Basically, though, if you're not getting paid or getting freebies or heavy personal discounts of some kind from said companies in return for some kind of goods or service, it looks to me like you're eligible.

Quite so. I think the term is meant to exclude PR agents, representatives, employees (paid or unpaid) and the like, not bona fide customers.

And the no-access from America problem is being investigated as I type. Sorry about that...

hugh


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...where do we comment about the actual choices to vote on..... ?

The ommision of Rokit monitors, the lower end of the SE range and the SM58 is a shame.....would also have liked to voted on a retailer and computer supplier/manufacturer/system....

But I did vote....when do i get my prize???



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The choices were arrived at after very lengthy and involved discussions involving the whole SOS production team, and the number of slots in each category was restricted which is why we weren't able to include every possible contender. But the options that are there are hopefully representative and span all budget levels.

Hugh


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oh it looks like it's banning USA IP addresses... I can get to it with a proxy server. does that mean I'm not eligible?

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Yes, you are definitely eligible to vote. It looks like we had a URL re-direction problem with the website server, but I'm told it has now been fixed...

Please let me know if you can now access the voting page or if you are still having problems.

Hugh

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Quote Hugh Robjohns:

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The choices were arrived at after very lengthy and involved discussions involving the whole SOS production team, and the number of slots in each category was restricted which is why we weren't able to include every possible contender. But the options that are there are hopefully representative and span all budget levels.

Hugh

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Understand Hugh - and you have to have some cut-off point

however - i was voting for stuff that i didn't have an actual experience of, cause I have expereince of the older brother -

for example - I have an olympus ls10...so i voted for the olympus ls11...cause the ls-10 is so great

but surely the testament to the ls-10 was that it's 3 years old and still going

and doing it's job very well


it seems as if the awards are geared towards very new gear but not recognising that the very BEST gear is timeless.....


Like the SM58

etc
etc

and a retailer award would be nice - sometimes they are the people who really make the difference

(But then i suppose we cross over into SOS customer feedback surveys...)

I understand SOS has a difficult time over this - would be great to be a fly on the wall in the discussion over who makes the cut for the award/voting survey (would maybe more interesting than the actual award/survey itself...

and how about a sos reviewer of the year survey.....

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STILL cannot access.
I was so excited for this. I put it as the first bookmark in my toolbar so I wouldn't forget... way before the site was even online. I tired voting from a proxy but it won't let me submit... I assume it quite possibly has something to do with my ISP since other USA folks seem to be able to get on. I still think it's partly a sound on sound issue even if it's just one isp that you're not getting along with.


i'm sad.

p.s. most of it is pretty reasonable, but I think the preamp choices were a bit lacking...
no john hardy, BLA auteur, DW fern, or RNP (among others)?

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Edited by jeffreyjames (10/10/10 03:55 AM)

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it seems as if the awards are geared towards very new gear but not recognising that the very BEST gear is timeless.....


Like the SM58

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Hmmm... not sure I agree with that. All the products in the list are currently on sale, which is sensible, but there are some more established designs in there: the SM7 has seen quite a bit of service in many studios, as has the EV RE20. Personally, I'd rather see SM7 and RE20 in the list than a 58, whose ubiquity is arguably more due to its popularity on stage than in the studio. And I'd probably also rather see a Beyerdynamic M201, SM57, Beta 58 or Beta 57 than a 58. But that's the nature of shortlists!

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STILL cannot access.
I was so excited for this. I put it as the first bookmark in my toolbar so I wouldn't forget... way before the site was even online. I tired voting from a proxy but it won't let me submit... I assume it quite possibly has something to do with my ISP since other USA folks seem to be able to get on. I still think it's partly a sound on sound issue even if it's just one isp that you're not getting along with.

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Hi jeffreyjames. Sorry to hear you're still having problems accessing the site. I have already been in touch with the guys who host it for us, but they are seeing green lights their end. I've also been in touch with some chaps in America to test it for us and it worked for them, so I can simply come to the same conclusion that it must, unfortunately, be a localised problem. If you're having no success with proxy servers, then all I can suggest is for you to use an alternative computer at a different location on which to vote - hardly ideal, I know, but at least you'll have registered your opinions and your chance to win! I'm sorry there isn't more I can do, but if nothing is showing up for us, our hosts, or our American buddies, then we can't fix a problem we can't identify.

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A long shot, but... the error page isn't still in your cache is it? You've tried hitting refresh I suppose? Or trying a different browser? I'm guessing it isn't that simple, but it can't hurt to suggest it...

The links all work for us.

Please us http://www.sosawards.com/

cheers,
ian G

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