Kaw-Liga
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Elastic Audio vs X-Form in Pro Tools
#877361 - 26/11/10 08:07 AM
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Hi! I like to try out different tempos of recordings during mixing. I noticed that in Pro
Tools there are two ways to do this, Elastic Audio, and through a plugin called X-form,
only available if you get the complete toolkit.
Is elastic audio good enough
for using on an end-product, or must one buy x-form?
Alos, Logic 9 has the
capability of adjusting time, varispeed, but the results are very awful. Propellerheads
"Record" is amazingly great at this, and the reason I haven't bought it, is that you are
stuck with the plugins included. Is pro tools elastic time as good as the Record
timestretching, or as bad as the Logic?
what are the differences between
elastic time and x-form?
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narcoman
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Re: Elastic Audio vs X-Form in Pro Tools
[Re: Kaw-Liga]
#877484 - 26/11/10 02:51 PM
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Elastic audio is MUCH more than time stretching. It handles hit points and transient
events too. If you want an example of what elastic audio can do for you PM me and I'll do
an example for you.
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Sam Inglis
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Re: Elastic Audio vs X-Form in Pro Tools
[Re: Kaw-Liga]
#877502 - 26/11/10 03:46 PM
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Do you find Elastic Audio useful for drums? I tried it head to head against Beat Detective
last week and BD was miles better than any of the Elastic Audio modes.
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Kaw-Liga
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Re: Elastic Audio vs X-Form in Pro Tools
[Re: narcoman]
#877534 - 26/11/10 05:54 PM
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Hi! I know elastic audio is much more than time stretching, but thats the only part Im
interested in. Does it sound good when used on all tracks? It seems that Avid says X-Form
is the best time-stretching algorithm they have, claiming you can play recordings up to
800% faster or slower and it will still sound good.
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narcoman
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Re: Elastic Audio vs X-Form in Pro Tools
[Re: Kaw-Liga]
#877585 - 26/11/10 10:27 PM
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no - that's defo a "stretch" on Avids part. It sounds as good/bad as any other time
stretcher. Pitch n time pro from serato is better. Elastic audio is great for drums - but
that's because it isn't just stretching them - it's retiming from cut points. Using BD IS
better - but it's a different thing. I've used elastic audio to re-conform a movie
soundtrack element against the picture when it needs shunting and slowing a little and
it's pretty excellent.
Extreme stuff ALWAYS has artifacts.
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