Chaconne
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Hardware Sequencing
#903954 - 26/03/11 11:20 PM
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Two questions....
1) Is there such a thing as a new, simple hardware
sequencer? I'm sure a small company, like Philip Rees used to make a little hardware
sequencer. Also there used to be a little Alesis unit called Nanotracker. I guess I will
have to look at e-bay for an Alesis MMT or an MC 300 - is there really no modern
equivalent?
2) I was thinking to try to 'MPC' my S950, by using a drum machine.
I have been looking at maybe a 505, 626 or something, or maybe an RX machine. I know these
machines do not have pressure sensitive pads, but is it likely that any of these machines
will allow me to trigger samples in the S950 as I touch them to program the step
sequencer? From hours googling I think its possible...anyone ever done this?
many thanks
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vinyl_junkie
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Re: Hardware Sequencing
[Re: Chaconne]
#903959 - 27/03/11 12:04 AM
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Throw that MMT8 in the bin and get a MPC  I never
got why they were so popular...rather out dated and useless now I think, the lack of MIDI
thru also sucks big time.
The Roland MC-500 can be quite cool (x0x
programming for drum tracks) and once you get used to it's strange ways it's a cool
sequencer although simple it's not but you can do a lot of cool things with it.
Saying that NOTHING beats the MPC for ease of use and quick results imo
Haven't used any of the new MPC's but I have used and owned every old one...60,
3000, 2000, 2000XL and currently have a 2000XL and S-3200XL
The MPC is my
main sequencer full stop..
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vinyl_junkie
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Re: Hardware Sequencing
[Re: Chaconne]
#903962 - 27/03/11 12:19 AM
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First track is some 909 techno affair, second tune is a much nicer trip hop affair
followed by some other unfinished tracks...all done live on the MPC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsQON85ogpA
Future Sound
of London inspired break beat'ish track all played live on the MPC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3EAV9XZjQ8&feature=related
Akai MPC-60 doing cheese filter house
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqESFdAqf64
More MPC-60
nonsense...man I miss the 60
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMWqvYI7VIY&feature=related
Honestly...these machines are ace, you don't even need to read a
manual.....although I highly recommend it to get the most out of em' ;-)
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Chevytraveller
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Re: Hardware Sequencing
[Re: Chaconne]
#903975 - 27/03/11 06:55 AM
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+1 on the MPC. Fantastic piece of kit and quite simply the quickest way to start
building a track.. love my MPC2K
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ken long
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Re: Hardware Sequencing
[Re: Chaconne]
#903995 - 27/03/11 10:59 AM
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also vouch for the MPC. though, if you don't need the sampler and the pads, you could
just go for an ASQ-10. Gorgeous machine.
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vinyl_junkie
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Re: Hardware Sequencing
[Re: Chaconne]
#903999 - 27/03/11 11:25 AM
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Aiit but have you seen the prices on those things lately?! They sell for as much if not
more as a 2000XL which is nuts
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Chevytraveller
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Re: Hardware Sequencing
[Re: ken long]
#904004 - 27/03/11 11:33 AM
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Quote ken long:
also vouch for
the MPC. though, if you don't need the sampler and the pads, you could just go for an
ASQ-10.
Gorgeous machine.
Mmmmm... nice cheeks
-------------------- MBP 17", PC 100(Nubus Protools) Motu 896, X-Station, Logic9, Reason6, Korg legacy, ACE, Alchemy, Emax II, E-Synth, Evolver MEK, Waldorf Pulse and Blofeld, AS Telemark, AS Leipzig-S
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Re: Hardware Sequencing
[Re: Chaconne]
#904005 - 27/03/11 11:38 AM
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Got wood? lol
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Chaconne
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Re: Hardware Sequencing
[Re: Chaconne]
#904632 - 29/03/11 10:31 PM
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I am tempted, but I find the MPC route just encourages me to get back into 90's style
mute/unmute arrangements. Ultimately I must finish stuff on the laptop to compete.
I know there are a few still doing this, Omar S e.g.
I only wanted a
simple thing to do Klaus Schulze / T.D impressions. Some of those boxes are a lot of desk
space just for that.
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Re: Hardware Sequencing
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#904638 - 29/03/11 10:48 PM
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Quote Chaconne:
I am tempted, but
I find the MPC route just encourages me to get back into 90's style mute/unmute
arrangements. Ultimately I must finish stuff on the laptop to compete.
I
know there are a few still doing this, Omar S e.g.
I only wanted a simple
thing to do Klaus Schulze / T.D impressions. Some of those boxes are a lot of desk space
just for that.
Ah yes,
this is known to me and my friends as "MPC'itus" a medical term for loopy things that mute
and un-mute as you have described
What you may want to try is the Roland
MC-500 which gives you a lot more freedom outside the world of 2 or 4 bar loops lol
Cool thing with that one is you can pick the best bits in a long sequence and stitch
them all together..and the alpha dial acts as a scrub wheel, worth a go at the silly
prices they sell for any way.
My mate has one and a MPC-60...he did a nice Klaus
Schulze type thing on the 500 and SP-808 with the aid of some guitars and modular.
I'm not the guy to ask about the 500 though, only used it few times...I'm not
ninja enough on it where's he is...once you do get some skillz on it, it's a really great
sequencer that doesn't force you to think in a MPC way...which if you are like me...just
end up suffering from MPC'Itus for the rest of your life, we both have the bug hahah
Edited by vinyl_junkie (29/03/11 10:53 PM)
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squirrels
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Re: Hardware Sequencing
[Re: Chaconne]
#904649 - 29/03/11 11:30 PM
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For drum programming, the Alesis SR-16 works well, decent MIDI spec, quick to use once you
get used to it...but you could probably say the same about most hardware sequencers.
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Re: Hardware Sequencing
[Re: Chaconne]
#904688 - 30/03/11 08:22 AM
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Eerm I meant Roland MC-50 not MC-500 lol Although they are pretty similar
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tomafd
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Re: Hardware Sequencing
[Re: Chaconne]
#904711 - 30/03/11 09:19 AM
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If you can find one (working) these babies are pretty underrated http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-vCB2ZvWs4&feature=relatedI did a lot of work on these years ago, and still have one, but I have to say I've
long gone Logic etc for most things. Mine still gets the occasional work out but more for
creating ludicrous beats really fast- full track sequencing, no, though it does do that
hardware stylee thing perfectly well.
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ken long
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Re: Hardware Sequencing
[Re: tomafd]
#904712 - 30/03/11 09:27 AM
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Quote tomafd:
If you can find one
(working) these babies are pretty underrated
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-vCB2ZvWs4&feature=related
I did a lot of work on these years ago, and still have one, but I have to say I've
long gone Logic etc for most things. Mine still gets the occasional work out but more for
creating ludicrous beats really fast- full track sequencing, no, though it does do that
hardware stylee thing perfectly well.
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Tom, if you ever decide to release that, please get in touch.
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Zukan
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Re: Hardware Sequencing
[Re: Chaconne]
#904714 - 30/03/11 09:28 AM
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Yammy QY700 and the Roland MC80 are also worth an eyeball.
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Re: Hardware Sequencing
[Re: tomafd]
#904715 - 30/03/11 09:29 AM
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Quote tomafd:
If you can find one
(working) these babies are pretty underrated
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-vCB2ZvWs4&feature=related
I did a lot of work on these years ago, and still have one, but I have to say I've
long gone Logic etc for most things. Mine still gets the occasional work out but more for
creating ludicrous beats really fast- full track sequencing, no, though it does do that
hardware stylee thing perfectly well.
But those things are rare and worth about as much as a
SP-1200...that's a heluva lot of money..and I'd still rather have a SP
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Re: Hardware Sequencing
[Re: Zukan]
#904717 - 30/03/11 09:41 AM
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Quote Zukan:
Yammy QY700 and the
Roland MC80 are also worth an eyeball.
Good point. I picked up a QY300 (boxed and mint) two years ago
for £70.
Great sequencer.
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pocklefo
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Re: Hardware Sequencing
[Re: ken long]
#905370 - 01/04/11 11:24 AM
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I used to use a Kawai Q-80. That was pretty solid and you didn't have to load
the OS from floppy , unlike the Roland MC-500.
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Kolakube
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Re: Hardware Sequencing
[Re: Chaconne]
#907475 - 11/04/11 05:46 PM
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Roland W30 would do what you want.
However if an MPC is too big a footprint
the W30 will no doubt be too big
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Chevytraveller
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Re: Hardware Sequencing
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#907499 - 11/04/11 07:14 PM
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Have you used a W30?.. it does have the funtionality, but trying to use one is like trying
to get a cat to make a decent G & T
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Re: Hardware Sequencing
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#907509 - 11/04/11 08:14 PM
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Yeah I grew up on one Simon.
W30, D10 and an Amiga. Was my only gear from many
years.
Not sure what the sequencer would be like now but back in the early 90s
it was great. Biggest let down with the W30 was the pittly un expandable sampling times.
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