Tristan Jove
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Grotbox Choices
#910834 - 27/04/11 11:35 AM
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Hi all,
Mike Senior, in his "Mixing Secrets" book, exhorts the virtues of checking
mixes on "grotbox" speakers ie little cheap computer style speakers.
Just wondering
how many of you do this, and if you find it useful, and what make and speakers you use.
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Exalted Wombat
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Re: Grotbox Choices
[Re: Tristan Jove]
#910843 - 27/04/11 11:53 AM
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Experienced mixers MIGHT develop their art to the point where a mix made on their chosen
monitors (and room) will reliably translate to any system. The rest of us check in a
variety of playback situations!
My favourite first check is to leave the mix
playing and move from my studio to the adjacent kitchen, maybe with the door nearly
closed. Any problem tends to shout out - maybe because when in front of the speakers all
that wonderful detail can obscure a basic imbalance! The next classic test is burning a
CD to play in the car. I usually find those two sufficient, but sure, try anything else
you've got!
I'm a little dubious about the value of grotty speakers in the same
room as your "good" monitors. Because they ARE in the same room, and the room can make a
lot of difference.
Also, don't rush the job. Live with the mix for a few days.
Get opinions.
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andy cross
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Re: Grotbox Choices
[Re: Tristan Jove]
#910907 - 27/04/11 05:44 PM
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All good advice. An alternative to listening next door is to turn the volume right down -
again, basic imbalances tend to stick out. Also, when coming back to a mix, take note of
your first impressions. It's very easy to get used to things and accept them, when
actually the initial suspicion that something needs fixing is probably correct.
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Martin Walker
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Re: Grotbox Choices
[Re: Tristan Jove]
#910928 - 27/04/11 07:11 PM
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Hi Tristan! I suspect you haven’t yet read this long and involved thread in
which a number of grot box candidates were explored, starting with the Avantone Mixcube,
but then moving onto many more, including at least four by me  www.soundonsound.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=904662It’s a good read! Martin
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Tristan Jove
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Re: Grotbox Choices
[Re: Tristan Jove]
#911082 - 28/04/11 11:17 AM
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Thanks Martin,
yes it is a jolly good read, and lots of good advice.
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Martin Walker
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Re: Grotbox Choices
[Re: Tristan Jove]
#911183 - 28/04/11 07:50 PM
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Glad it helped  Martin
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Re: Grotbox Choices
[Re: Tristan Jove]
#911365 - 29/04/11 03:24 PM
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Since I have installed the PMC IB1's, my Dynaudio Acoustics BM6P have become my grot
boxes, lol. Well not really the BM6 has been a familiar aquaintance through most of my
engineering career so they are very useful to me.
I think this practice is
usually undertaken when you already have good monitoring available.
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