Dianne Sagun
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unrecognized USB device
#917343 - 01/06/11 07:48 AM
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I’ve was trying to plug a USB on one of my USB ports on my CPU but I was given an error
that the USB Device is not recognized. What seems to be the problem, I was just using that
port previously? How can I fix it?
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Pete Kaine
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Re: unrecognized USB device
[Re: Dianne Sagun]
#917357 - 01/06/11 08:17 AM
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Is this a front port on the pc? Have you tried it in one of them round the back?
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Martin Walker
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Re: unrecognized USB device
[Re: Dianne Sagun]
#917528 - 01/06/11 05:07 PM
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Welcome to the SOS Forums Dianne!  Aha, I’ve also faced the ‘'USB Device Not Recognised’ on a front port when
plugging in some USB sticks, while the same stick would work perfectly when plugged into a
rear-mounted port directly connected to the motherboard, and discussed the problem way
back in my October 2006 PC Notes column: www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct06/articles/pcnotes_1006.htm#3Hope it helps! Martin
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Re: unrecognized USB device
[Re: Dianne Sagun]
#917564 - 01/06/11 08:59 PM
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I've also encountered the situation where a device sometimes doesn't get recognised when I
plug it in. After unplugging and replugging it then works. Usually my 3G stick, but I have
also seen it happen with a flash drive.
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Pete Kaine
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Re: unrecognized USB device
[Re: Martin Walker]
#917610 - 02/06/11 08:42 AM
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Quote Martin Walker:
and
discussed the problem way back in my October 2006 PC Notes column:
I've never seen that one before. Good to see
a solid result in a mystery shopper situation too!
Yeah, tend to find on some
boards that only the I/O plate mounted usb ports will give the full output as stated by
the usb spec and sometimes the header ones that then get connected to the front panel can
come up short. It use to be fairly common up until 3 or 4 years ago and now most of the
previous guilty suspects seem to have their act in order. Always the first thing to try
through as even previously working ports can be sporadic in detecting if not completely
upto par.
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DragonLogos
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Re: unrecognized USB device
[Re: Dianne Sagun]
#917630 - 02/06/11 09:27 AM
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if it happens with any device it could be that the - data is in the + data place...
If can also be a faulty cable, ie Printer or Camera A to B cable
For
front USB that sometimes and only with some devices plays up, it can be bad soldering on
the USB board in the front, but most times it is down to the header wires are not good and
are too long. In which case it is best to replace them with good copper wire and only as
long as they need to be... like some beers USB does not travel well, which is true of a
lot of stuff that has to go down wires... crossed pairs, bitter and twisted cables...
LOL
If it is playing up front and back could well be the device is thinking
of checking out on you
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DragonLogos
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Re: unrecognized USB device
[Re: Dianne Sagun]
#917633 - 02/06/11 09:35 AM
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BTW this is a famous fault for the HP 2015 laser - toner light comes on USB does not want
to know and the service centre wants to sell you a formater board for just under the price
of the printer... it can be fixed without too much drama... Was rather ticked that HP
dodged the bullet on that one
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Martin Walker
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Re: unrecognized USB device
[Re: DragonLogos]
#917641 - 02/06/11 09:55 AM
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Quote DragonLogos:
... like some
beers USB does not travel well, which is true of a lot of stuff that has to go down
wires... crossed pairs, bitter and twisted cables... LOL
What a lovely quote DragonLogos! 
Martin
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Re: unrecognized USB device
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#917645 - 02/06/11 10:05 AM
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Thanks Martin Just a warning to anyone building up systems, or re-doing wiring
to USB headers... DO NOT REVERSE position Ground and +5v the result will be
dire. Check it and check it twice, then test it before putting in a device LOL
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TheZman1
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Re: unrecognized USB device
[Re: Dianne Sagun]
#917792 - 02/06/11 07:37 PM
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I have had the same problem with the front USB port on my computer. Some devises work fine
on the rear USB ports but not the front and some devises work fine on both. Reading the
previous posts it sounds like the problem lies with the front ports being wired and the
rear ports are physically mounted to the motherboard.
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Re: unrecognized USB device
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#917957 - 03/06/11 01:35 PM
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Hi TheZman1, and welcome to the SOS Forums!
Yep - you’ve got it. It’s the extra length of thin wire connecting the front ports
to the motherboard that seems to be the culprit. As DragonLogos mentions above, the ideal
solution if you run into this problem is to replace that cable with something more
‘manly’ (i.e. thicker, with more copper, and only as long as it needs to be rather
than with the excess coiled up in a corner).
By the way DL and Pete both -
with your vast practical experience have either of you ever used twisted pair for USB
front port data connections?
It does state in various places that USB High
and Full Speeds can only be attained if special attention is given to screening and of
having the data wires as a "twisted pair". This is presumably referring to USB cables, but
it does occur to me that internal cables attached to motherboards headers ought ideally to
comply with this as well. DO any motherboard manufacturers offer such screened/twisted
pair header cable options?
Martin
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Pete Kaine
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Re: unrecognized USB device
[Re: Martin Walker]
#917995 - 03/06/11 03:23 PM
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Some of the older Silverstones (TJ05 did it I recall) had them although that would be
going on for half a decade back now. Doesn't seem to be something anyone cares to
impliment these days through.
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Re: unrecognized USB device
[Re: Martin Walker]
#919253 - 09/06/11 11:56 AM
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Quote Martin Walker:
By the
way DL and Pete both - with your vast practical experience have either of you ever used
twisted pair for USB front port data connections?
It does state in various
places that USB High and Full Speeds can only be attained if special attention is given to
screening and of having the data wires as a "twisted pair". This is presumably referring
to USB cables, but it does occur to me that internal cables attached to motherboards
headers ought ideally to comply with this as well. DO any motherboard manufacturers offer
such screened/twisted pair header cable options? Martin
I rarely twisted cables for front USBs - It
took me a while to work out the exact nature of the problem, but as said it was down to
poor copper and keeping it as short as possible. The back header cables that you get from
Gigabyte are twisted and have never had a problem from them
When making a cable
shorter it is sometimes better to replace it with some really good gold coloured copper
and solder the wires directly onto the front section
Another problem you can
get with front USBs is when the plastic tooth gets broken off (the oblong plastic lock)
this normally happens when a USB device is inserted and it gets a bump. You can replace
these without too much effort, if you cannot get from your spares supplier you can always
knock a few off scrap mobos
Have had PCs coming in that are dead only to find
it was the front USB shorting out - a good visual check for PCs and notebooks
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