Thanks Glen for your participation, however as a customer I am also frustrated not being able to buy the product...

But... after looking in every corner of the internet I found a pair in a shop in Germany for a decent price. I live in Holland, so shipping won't be an issue.

Haven't made up my mind about using them in stereo or just mono. If anyone is interested in buying the second one if I decide to go mono, just let me know!

Hi Glenn,

And thanks again for posting - I think most people understand your missionary-like zeal, even if you do get carried away occasionally (not kicking and screaming though I hope )

When the single active blacks are in stock over here I shall become another of your customers


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Thanks for your kind words. It is true, we are trying to get MixCubes out ASAP. I will post here to let you know when we ship. Now, I'll try to keep to the subject from now on...(let's see where is the valium?) Oh, I don't have any valium...

Best,
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Ok, I've mailed the company again and will feedback here.

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sent pm, Phil.

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I've been following this thread on GS as well to hear opinions. Post #205 was especially interesting.

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/product-alerts-older-than-2-months/569562-b ehringer-knockoff-you-might-actually-want-behritone-7.html

Looking forward to hearing what Mike S. thinks of the C50A.

The Avantones are taking so long... I wonder if its worth the wait.

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Thanks for that link. That thread has really developed recently. There are at least two mentions of Mike's book on there too. Judging by their user responses, I'm tempted to just go for the C50A

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Yes. I have also been tempted.
But, at the risk of sounding like one of those guys that looks to someone else to make their decisions for them... I am honestly waiting to see if Mike S chimes in on the C50A.

His input on the VRM box from a recent thread, for example, made alot of sense and helped me understand a product I had already bought (Saffire with VRM in it) and was growing disappointed with. Using the Flat Panel TV type settings he recommended helped my mix right away more than anything else in that software.
I have been very happy with my DT 880 Pro headphone purchase and have been eating up the book and the Blood to Bone mixdown "education". (I have read Mixing with your Mind and Roey Izhakis books amongst others).

I know Mike doesn't need anyone tooting his horn for him, his methods just jive for me. And when I find that, it usually saves me money in the long run to pay heed to it.

So, I'm waiting. The money difference is not that big of a deal, to me. Although it might sting a little as I'm about 2 seconds from pulling the trigger on the Blue Sky Pro Desk

...except i cant even find any c50a's in stock in the uk! whats going on.....

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We expect our first arrival of MixCubes in New York in about 10 days. Allowing a few days to check them out, fulfill lots of orders, and get them on pallets to Europe; I would say that we're at the end of the month!!!

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Probably another week to go before they arrive in Europe.


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The German company has stopped answering my emails about them being sold separately.

I am broke at the moment anyway so can wait but will most likely go for the Behringer.

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Has anyone found anywhere in Europe that's selling the Behringer C50s?
I'm based in Denmark, but have had no luck locating them (although the C5a appears to be in plentiful stock, and at a very reasonable price!).

Ta very much in advance.

sweetwater.com in the US says they get stock of avantone mixcube on 11th November - so i guess UK wont see any until after this date?

,,,oh and interesting pricing on the behringers at thomann - the difference is so small that you wouldnt choose on price alone but on how grotty you wanted the grotbox to be I guess??!!

c5a = £145 for a pair incl vat + delivery

c50a = £170 for a pair incl vat + delivery

If they sold them as singles you could buy 1 of each - I wonder whether a comparison across 2 grot boxes would really be of any help? I cant think why. Mr Senior? PS When is that SoS review going to happen?

My pair of Active Mixcubes arrived today. I must say I am very impressed with the quality of its components. Solid piece of equipment. From my experience with Behringer, I doubt they use components of equal quality...

After a quick test I found out these mixcubes are a great addition to my current monitors (Dynaudio BM5a mk2), and will aid me in making critical midrange mixing decisions. Can't wait to use them on my projects!

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Still waiting for mixcubes to be in stock.

sigh.

I got an email saying 'we've got them in stock'. I mailed back asking if they sell them individually. No reply. That was last week.

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Dales Pro Audio emailed Friday and said they are shipping a black mixcube out to me from New York.

Just wanted to say, real quick. This is a real informative piece of gear.

We've all heard and discussed the reasons why... playing my own home brew against my favorite commercial mixes, real informative.

Thanks for the feedback Raynorshyn - I'm still debating whether or not to go for the single black Avantone Mixcube for around £220, or a pair of almost identical looking Behringer C50A Behritone clones of the same that Thomann are currently selling for just £165 (making each one just £82 if a friend and I split the cost and have one each!)

I know the Mixcubes will 'sound' better, but if a grot box does its job properly then this is a HUGE difference in cost


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Well I've just ordered a black pair of Mixcubes from these guys for £377. So that's Jaminem and me sorted!

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Woohoo!

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I live in Aarhus btw.

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Concertina chap just delivered me a spangly new black active mixcube!!

Upon first listen, its testament to just how good Wasting Light sounds, that even a Mixcube can reproduce it well...

I really see the point of those reference tracks now....

Sadly, although I have my Mixcube of the pair and have wired it in I can't try it out because the carols band is practising not 10 feet away ...



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Well I couldnt wait to track down one Mixcube (only pairs) so I ordered x1 C50a for a bargain price. REVELATION. So thats why producers used auratones and NS10s - but how could they listen to them for any length of time?

Basically my first reaction to putting on a track I was mixing was "it will burn out my ears" - basically if you've overcooked your mid-range it will tell you in no uncertain terms. Mixes that sounded clear on my near-fields sounded messy on the C5a. But it was nice to hear my carefully layered kick drums cut through.

I cant believe I have done without a full range speaker for so long! Frankly if yr mixing for the iTunes generation, this is way more useful than a nearfield. But after 15 minutes my ears had had enough exposure I had to turn back to the lush sound of the nearfields!

I listened to commercial tracks - N-Dubz Against All Odds sounded harsh and bright; Adele sounded good but her voice sounded over EQed; Katie Perry TGIF - hardly any bass whatsoever, voice cut through it is so BRIGHT! Clearly some people arent checking their mixes with a grotbox enough? ;-) Its not LOUDNESS thats now the problem in pop, its brightness - all these songs were mixed way too bright for me.

And it was Mike Senior that got me to take notice of full range speakers - thanks Mike!

Well recommended and for the price of a single speaker that is less than 2 petrol refills in a saloon.

Well... I am still liking the mono mixcube. It does tell me things nothing else I have will.

But I'm a little concerned or nitpicky, over what may be nothing... but it seems like the middle button (waveguide?) of the speaker cone is glued on askew and pointing slightly left. Is this going to make a noticeable difference in their accuracy and reproduction?

Thanks

Had a suspiciously high level of background noise coming from my C5A yesterday evening. Seems alright this morning, but I'm looking at it askance. It's been up and running for the last couple of months without problems, and I'd be disappointed if it went down. Anyone had any reliability problems with theirs at all so far?

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Took a while getting used to, but I like it better every time.

Regards,
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Typical.

You wait weeks for a single C50 to turn up, and then two get delivered within a few hours of each other. Still, at least I can get on with reviewing them properly now...

Looks like the noise problem with the C5A might have been a dodgy cable.

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Typical.

You wait weeks for a single C50 to turn up, and then two get delivered within a few hours of each other. Still, at least I can get on with reviewing them properly now...

Looks like the noise problem with the C5A might have been a dodgy cable.

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