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Hi all. Long-time reader here, but I've never needed to start a post until now... I'm
looking for some advice on improving the sound of my keyboard in my practice studio ("the
pad"). I use it to play with a band, and also on my own.
First the hardware: Keyboard is a Kurzweil PC3x. I go through a Behringer mixer that I picked up dirt cheap.
It is the model which precedes the current Xenyx line, 12-channel with effects. The mixer
goes out to 2 QSC K12s, which were far from dirt cheap. Cheesy They're 2x500W (biamped)
powered speakers. From the keyboard to the mixer I use balanced jack-to-XLR cables, and
from the mixer to the speaker, I think I have unbalanced XLR cables.
So, my
basic problem is that I am not satisfied with the sound of my setup. I find I lose almost
all the definition and clarity in my middle octaves. The mixer's main output levels are
high - probably a little beyond 0dB, same for the channel level, which brings about a
pretty bad hiss. The speakers have output gain knobs, but I was advised by the salesman
(whose expertise seems a little rough around the edges IMO) not to exceed 0dB. I did
anyway, and it got a little better by being a little louder, but the hiss was way worse
and didnt really solve anything. EQ-ing sort of helps, but I'm still drowning out in the
guitar and drums.
In comparison, I play with a different band and we usually go
to a jam room which rents studios by the hour. At this place, there is a similar setup:
mixer to 2 powered speakers. The speakers are 200W Wharfdales, and I got no clue what the
mixer is, but from my ignorant perspective it's pretty big and more complex (read: more
knobs) than mine. And wouldn't you know, the sound and clarity there is great! I can hear
the details of the different pianos and strings and everything. It's much better across
all octaves. AND, the main and channel levels are quite low, which means I could really
crank it up more.
The obvious question becomes, what is the difference?
- My ignorant opinion is making me think about the mixer. Maybe just low-quality
pre-amps? Someone suggested a good studio preamp and boost it from there... Opinions?
Could I potentially overload the speaker's inputs? Perhaps a serious mixer upgrade? I also
use mics and other things in the mixer, so I need to retain that capability.
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The fact that my extension XLR cables are unbalanced? They're about 6 meters (20ft) long.
Granted they're not helping my signal-to-noise... but that much?
- The rooms
are quite different. My pad is very well soundproofed. (I'll try to get a couple photos).
I have Sonopan on the walls and ceiling, covered with fabric. The rented room is much
bigger. I'd say the walls are 40% covered with some soundproofing sections.
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The music styles are quite different. The band at my pad is heavy, hard rock, metal. As
such, it gets LOUD. The other band is more rock/pop and noticeably not as loud. Could I
just be a the true limit of my speakers? I would doubt it... I saw a DJ play in a small
bar/cafe with only 2 QSC K8 (same model line, but 8" speakers instead of my 12"). It was
almost painfully loud.
Any suggestions or opinions would be appreciated.
Cheers!
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Hi, I am gonna guess that its a combination of everything you have mentioned. Cheap, old
desk...longish unbalanced cabling.. inconsistent signal strength thru desk and
speaker...the style of music...Tackle the cheapest first (ie .turn down the band) and then
fix other issues. Dave
....and what he said above...
-------------------- My head hurts!
Edited by turbodave (06/07/11 11:18 AM)
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Going directly to the speakers is a good idea to see if the mixer is causing my problems.
However, for a long term solution, I need a mixer because I also use a couple mics and
line-in for iPod.
I'm looking into a new mixer too. 12 channels does the job
for me. Effects are a bonus, but not necessary. I could always get a separate processor.
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