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OneWorld



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Steinberg Virtual Guitar new
      #925439 - 09/07/11 01:53 PM
I needed to bring a project back from the dead, and it uses this software, and now I remember why I stopped using it. It refuses to play the play the first note/chord, I it is a fault I never could fix.

If I press the note on the midi keyboard, it triggers the appropriate note/chord in VG, it I go from a standing start, with the note already recorded into the Cubase midi grid, but when I when I loop, of even copy and paste the part, it refuses to play.

TO to save me mic'ing up my acoustic guitar, learning the part an playing, anyone any ideas what the problem might be

I have tried shortening the notes, so the notes switch off/on on looping but nope simply doesn't work. I have tried different velocity levels, that makes no difference either, it is only the first note/chord of the part that won't play


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daposti
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Re: Steinberg Virtual Guitar new [Re: OneWorld]
      #925600 - 11/07/11 06:45 AM
Have you tried Rob Papen RG? It looks pretty good makes some interesting sounds. It only does chords. If thats what you need?http://www.robpapen.com/rg.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktx1WzGmkvk


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Re: Steinberg Virtual Guitar new [Re: OneWorld]
      #925627 - 11/07/11 08:51 AM
Quote OneWorld:

I needed to bring a project back from the dead, and it uses this software, and now I remember why I stopped using it. It refuses to play the play the first note/chord, I it is a fault I never could fix.

If I press the note on the midi keyboard, it triggers the appropriate note/chord in VG, it I go from a standing start, with the note already recorded into the Cubase midi grid, but when I when I loop, of even copy and paste the part, it refuses to play.

TO to save me mic'ing up my acoustic guitar, learning the part an playing, anyone any ideas what the problem might be

I have tried shortening the notes, so the notes switch off/on on looping but nope simply doesn't work. I have tried different velocity levels, that makes no difference either, it is only the first note/chord of the part that won't play




As someone's suggested Rob Papen's RG, can I chime in with a suggestion to look at a freebie product, Spicy Guitar? Was given away on a coverdisk recently, can be found through MusicRadar and has saved me hours and hours of f*nnying about with an electro acoustic and my poor playing of said instrument... doesnt cost a bean, small software footprint.... nothing to lose by giving it a whirl...

Mind you, I realise it doesnt answer the original question of how you can get the Steinberg product to work, but there must come a time when you must think its time to stop spending valuable time on something that doesnt do what you want it to....

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Edited by Jabba1 (11/07/11 08:54 AM)


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Re: Steinberg Virtual Guitar new [Re: OneWorld]
      #925689 - 11/07/11 12:59 PM
Post this on the Steinberg site. Also sounds like you could contact Steinberg support for this.

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OneWorld



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Re: Steinberg Virtual Guitar [Re: Jabba1]
      #925760 - 11/07/11 05:34 PM
Quote Jabba1:

Quote OneWorld:

I needed to bring a project back from the dead, and it uses this software, and now I remember why I stopped using it. It refuses to play the play the first note/chord, I it is a fault I never could fix.

If I press the note on the midi keyboard, it triggers the appropriate note/chord in VG, it I go from a standing start, with the note already recorded into the Cubase midi grid, but when I when I loop, of even copy and paste the part, it refuses to play.

TO to save me mic'ing up my acoustic guitar, learning the part an playing, anyone any ideas what the problem might be

I have tried shortening the notes, so the notes switch off/on on looping but nope simply doesn't work. I have tried different velocity levels, that makes no difference either, it is only the first note/chord of the part that won't play




As someone's suggested Rob Papen's RG, can I chime in with a suggestion to look at a freebie product, Spicy Guitar? Was given away on a coverdisk recently, can be found through MusicRadar and has saved me hours and hours of f*nnying about with an electro acoustic and my poor playing of said instrument... doesnt cost a bean, small software footprint.... nothing to lose by giving it a whirl...

Mind you, I realise it doesnt answer the original question of how you can get the Steinberg product to work, but there must come a time when you must think its time to stop spending valuable time on something that doesnt do what you want it to....




Give yourself a pat on the back bro - just the job that, it seems even better the the software am using anyway, it seems to recognize more chords and ok we all know virtual guitars can sound a bit naff in isolation but once eq'd and placed properly in a mix they're good enough for a demo


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Re: Steinberg Virtual Guitar new [Re: tex]
      #925761 - 11/07/11 05:35 PM
Quote tex:

Post this on the Steinberg site. Also sounds like you could contact Steinberg support for this.

NGMTRWN




Steinberg stopped support for wizoo products ages ago


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Re: Steinberg Virtual Guitar new [Re: OneWorld]
      #925765 - 11/07/11 05:42 PM
Quote OneWorld:

I needed to bring a project back from the dead, and it uses this software, and now I remember why I stopped using it. It refuses to play the play the first note/chord, I it is a fault I never could fix.

If I press the note on the midi keyboard, it triggers the appropriate note/chord in VG, it I go from a standing start, with the note already recorded into the Cubase midi grid, but when I when I loop, of even copy and paste the part, it refuses to play.

TO to save me mic'ing up my acoustic guitar, learning the part an playing, anyone any ideas what the problem might be

I have tried shortening the notes, so the notes switch off/on on looping but nope simply doesn't work. I have tried different velocity levels, that makes no difference either, it is only the first note/chord of the part that won't play




I seem to remember you had to press the keys just before the beat - like triggering auto-chords on a Casio. So if you're looping, repeat the trigger note just before the repeat point. If you want a DIFFERENT chord after you come out of the loop, better to not loop at all, lay the whole song out in a linear way.


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Re: Steinberg Virtual Guitar new [Re: Exalted Wombat]
      #925882 - 12/07/11 10:59 AM
Delighted to be able to help Oneworld.

I stumbled on it last year through a er, rival publication, downloaded it off their website and was very pleased. Another rival publication gave it away on a coverdisk. Used to be a pay for app, but didnt take off so they made it freeware. I've been badgering them to do a 12 string one, but dont know if they ever will.

And exactly like you say, once you sit it in the mix, its more than adequate for demo purposes.

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Re: Steinberg Virtual Guitar new [Re: OneWorld]
      #926183 - 13/07/11 04:32 PM
It is such a shame that this VSTi is not supported anymore. Even if it is not even sold anymore it is used in countless new productions even nowadays.

I am really glad I got my VG2 copy some 5 years ago.

If I were you, I would post some screenshots of the project, midi editor and plugin GUI. Maybe we could help you better if you provided these as this is a weird plugin in the way it works so it may be anything causing the problem.

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Edited by Domenico (13/07/11 04:35 PM)


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Re: Steinberg Virtual Guitar new [Re: Domenico]
      #926304 - 14/07/11 08:15 AM
Quote Domenico:

It is such a shame that this VSTi is not supported anymore. Even if it is not even sold anymore it is used in countless new productions even nowadays.

I am really glad I got my VG2 copy some 5 years ago.

If I were you, I would post some screenshots of the project, midi editor and plugin GUI. Maybe we could help you better if you provided these as this is a weird plugin in the way it works so it may be anything causing the problem.




Just for the sake of it I did try putting the notes a bit before the beat and yes it does work. I tried to get hold of VG2 but it's as rare as hen's teeth although Real Guitar is still available.

It's all laziness on my part actually. I do play the guitar but the VG is great for having a palette of strummed guitars instantly available, as I might write a tune, try and sing it, find the key is too high and need to transpose, with VG thats easy. Playing the guitar instead of course means I have to relearn the part and re-record it


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Re: Steinberg Virtual Guitar new [Re: OneWorld]
      #926346 - 14/07/11 01:24 PM
Quote OneWorld:

Quote Domenico:

It is such a shame that this VSTi is not supported anymore. Even if it is not even sold anymore it is used in countless new productions even nowadays.

I am really glad I got my VG2 copy some 5 years ago.

If I were you, I would post some screenshots of the project, midi editor and plugin GUI. Maybe we could help you better if you provided these as this is a weird plugin in the way it works so it may be anything causing the problem.




Just for the sake of it I did try putting the notes a bit before the beat and yes it does work. I tried to get hold of VG2 but it's as rare as hen's teeth although Real Guitar is still available.

It's all laziness on my part actually. I do play the guitar but the VG is great for having a palette of strummed guitars instantly available, as I might write a tune, try and sing it, find the key is too high and need to transpose, with VG thats easy. Playing the guitar instead of course means I have to relearn the part and re-record it




I feel you.

I also use VG2 extensively when I create demos, but when I do more "serious" productions or my own stuff I setup 2-3 microphones and properly record my guitar.
But when I make demos for customers that are *not* so well paid (if paid at all) then VG2 is the tool for the job.

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Re: Steinberg Virtual Guitar new [Re: OneWorld]
      #936805 - 26/08/11 11:52 AM
Quote OneWorld:

It's all laziness on my part actually. I do play the guitar but the VG is great for having a palette of strummed guitars instantly available, as I might write a tune, try and sing it, find the key is too high and need to transpose, with VG thats easy. Playing the guitar instead of course means I have to relearn the part and re-record it




I've never heard of a great guitar sampler. Can someone give me a link to some audio where I can listen to it? I also play the guitar but if it's nice it could be very usefull.

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Re: Steinberg Virtual Guitar new [Re: MoSound Productions]
      #936806 - 26/08/11 12:12 PM
Quote MoSound Productions:

Quote OneWorld:

It's all laziness on my part actually. I do play the guitar but the VG is great for having a palette of strummed guitars instantly available, as I might write a tune, try and sing it, find the key is too high and need to transpose, with VG thats easy. Playing the guitar instead of course means I have to relearn the part and re-record it




I've never heard of a great guitar sampler. Can someone give me a link to some audio where I can listen to it? I also play the guitar but if it's nice it could be very usefull.




I wouldn't call it a great guitar sampler, it is just good in a limited way - that is standard chords chuggin away. But single notes and any kind of articulation is non-existent, it's not a guitar sampler as such.

I have both the Akai Z8 sampler and Gigastudio and have bought various guitar sample sets and non have been that convincing, you really need to do editing on almost every note to make it sound realistic.

Yellowtools Independance has a very good Spanish Guitar, that is very convincing on single notes, but sounds more like a cheap electric piano on chords. That being said this is a free download and very good


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