alexis
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Near field ported speakers ..."inaccurately compress the audio" , Bob Katz
#928802 - 21/07/11 01:47 AM
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Hi - I read this on another forum, I think he was digressing from a discussion of upward
expansion and gave the anecdote that he was mixing elsewhere on near field ported
speakers, went home to his studio and played on his monitors, and realized the tracks were
undercompressed.
I remember reading of the evils of less expensive near field
ported speakers, like mine :-( , in Mike Senior's book, but I remember more about
innacurate bass responses than anything else.
Is this something that mere
mortals notice?
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Re: Near field ported speakers ..."inaccurately compress the audio" , Bob Katz
[Re: alexis]
#928821 - 21/07/11 07:45 AM
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I ran Mike Senior's test files through my Alesis ported monitors and then unported Yamaha
and AR hi fi speakers. The unported speakers were very, very much better.
Whether this shows up in over/under compression I can't say, but after running the
tests, MS's stuff about clarity in bass response seems unarguable to me.
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Re: Near field ported speakers ..."inaccurately compress the audio" , Bob Katz
[Re: alexis]
#928826 - 21/07/11 08:05 AM
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But should the reported effect be attributed to just a specific make of ported near-field
speaker, a few versions of ported near-field speakers or all ported near-field speakers?
Not all near-field speakers are created equal just because they are ported.
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Re: Near field ported speakers ..."inaccurately compress the audio" , Bob Katz
[Re: alexis]
#928832 - 21/07/11 08:13 AM
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The time-domain smearing that ported designs risk is inevitably going to make time-based
dynamic processing more difficult. To say that they "inaccurately compress" audio is
probably a comment on group delay, which I suppose could be perceived as having an effect
similar to compression, in that it affects the way transients are reproduced.
Cheers!
Chris
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Re: Near field ported speakers ..."inaccurately compress the audio" , Bob Katz
[Re: alexis]
#928847 - 21/07/11 09:38 AM
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Short of asking Bob exactly what he meant, I guess we'll never know what sound artefacts
he was referring to. And I doubt his refernce monitors at home were un-ported nearfields
(it's been a while since I read his mastering book).
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Re: Near field ported speakers ..."inaccurately compress the audio" , Bob Katz
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#928850 - 21/07/11 09:52 AM
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Lipinski 'cost-as-much-as-a-very-nice-car' models, IIRC :P
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