RLG14a
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Headphones
#929833 - 25/07/11 12:24 AM
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Basically I am wanting to purchase a pair of headphones for critical listening for on
location recording. Main use (anytime soon) will be for judging the quality of mic
placement on drums (On location recording a section then listening critically). Also I
wouldn't mind using them for reference for mixing. I have looked at Roland RH 2/300 and
the KRK's so any first hand reviews of these and others would be great. Budget max is
really £150 would prefer to spend less than that on a pair of headphones.
Thanks Robert
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Smellthevalve
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Re: Headphones
[Re: RLG14a]
#929837 - 25/07/11 12:59 AM
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Have You also tried the Beyerdynamic, Sennheiser and AKG ones as well?
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alexis
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Re: Headphones
[Re: RLG14a]
#929846 - 25/07/11 02:17 AM
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http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan10/articles/studioheadphones.htmSome nice discussion there!
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ryan mead
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Re: Headphones
[Re: RLG14a]
#929855 - 25/07/11 04:56 AM
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Quote RLG14a:
Main use (anytime
soon) will be for judging the quality of mic placement on drums (On location recording a
section then listening critically). Also I wouldn't mind using them for reference for
mixing.
Open-backed headphones are
better for the second use (mixing), but closed-back headphones are essential for the first
(location recording and mic placement), so if you can only get one pair of phones, in your
position I'd say you should limit yourself to closed-back designs.
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Bob Bickerton
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Re: Headphones
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#929856 - 25/07/11 05:11 AM
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Highly recommend Sennheiser HD-25 as they provide excellent isolation, essential for
location recording an mic positioning and within your budget. Bob
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The Elf
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Re: Headphones
[Re: ryan mead]
#929862 - 25/07/11 07:04 AM
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Quote ryan mead:
Quote RLG14a:
Main use (anytime
soon) will be for judging the quality of mic placement on drums (On location recording a
section then listening critically). Also I wouldn't mind using them for reference for
mixing.
Open-backed headphones are
better for the second use (mixing), but closed-back headphones are essential for the first
(location recording and mic placement), so if you can only get one pair of phones, in your
position I'd say you should limit yourself to closed-back designs.
+1
I use Sony MDR-7509HD for setting
mic's against drums/amps, etc, but there's no way I could mix on them. For mixing I turn
to my trusty AKG K701. The 701's open-back design makes them useless for isolation, but
perfect for mixing.
Different jobs, different tools.
-------------------- An Eagle for an Emperor, A Kestrel for a Knave.
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Mike Stranks
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Re: Headphones
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#929870 - 25/07/11 08:06 AM
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I agree with everything that's already been said... with the location recording then
acoustic isolation and attenuation will be paramount - otherwise the room bleed-in will
cloud your judgment. I agree with Bob on the Sennheiser 25s, but for good
attenuation of external sounds you might also consider these: Sennheiser HD280 32dB of attenuation
outperforms even the purpose-built attenuation 'phones. I've not used them
m'self, but am seriously considering getting some for live location tracking situations
where I have to be in the same room as the music.
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turbodave
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Re: Headphones
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#929876 - 25/07/11 08:19 AM
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I have the Sennheiser HD595s which are still available from Amazon for £120 I think. They
are discontinued which is why the price has been lowered. They are great! Dave
-------------------- My head hurts!
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RLG14a
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Re: Headphones
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#929890 - 25/07/11 09:09 AM
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Thanks for all the replies. Will the closed back headphones suggested sound good/accurate
enough for me to judge the quality of mic placement?
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John Willett
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Re: Headphones
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#929938 - 25/07/11 11:49 AM
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For location monitoring I use the Sennheiser HD 25-1, they are great for listening to
detail. I use the optional velour earpads (they come in the box with the headphones on
the Mk.II version). I also have the HD 800 open headphones for mixing and
mastering (replacing my HD 650 and HD 600 cans).
-------------------- John - Sound-Link ProAudio
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Bob Bickerton
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Re: Headphones
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#929939 - 25/07/11 11:50 AM
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I'm only familiar with the Sony 7509 and Sennheiser HD-25. Both would be up to the job,
the HD-25 giving a little more attenuation to ambient sounds. Mike's suggestion of the
Hd280s looks interesting too. Bob
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John Willett
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Quote Bob Bickerton:
Mike's
suggestion of the Hd280s looks interesting too.
At the lower cost, I think I would go for the newer HD 380 Pro
over the HD 280 Pro. The 380 is only about £10 more and folds flat and comes with a
zipped case for transport and protection.
-------------------- John - Sound-Link ProAudio
President - Federation Internationale des Chasseurs de Sons
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RLG14a
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Re: Headphones
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#929986 - 25/07/11 01:22 PM
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Thanks again for the replies. I have narrowed my search to the Sennheiser hd 280 PRO
or the Sennheiser hd 380 PRO.
Between these two which would people suggest for
my main requirement of Judging Mic Placement.
Thanks again.
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John Willett
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Re: Headphones
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#930051 - 25/07/11 03:44 PM
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Quote RLG14a:
Thanks again for
the replies. I have narrowed my search to the Sennheiser hd 280 PRO or the Sennheiser
hd 380 PRO.
Between these two which would people suggest for my main
requirement of Judging Mic Placement.
Thanks again.
Personally I would go for the 380 over the
280 (but the HD 25-1 is better).
-------------------- John - Sound-Link ProAudio
President - Federation Internationale des Chasseurs de Sons
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turbodave
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Re: Headphones
[Re: turbodave]
#930090 - 25/07/11 05:27 PM
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Quote turbodave:
I have the
Sennheiser HD595s which are still available from Amazon for £120 I think. They are
discontinued which is why the price has been lowered. They are great! Dave
sorry! great headphones but inappropriate here!
-------------------- My head hurts!
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John Willett
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Re: Headphones
[Re: turbodave]
#930340 - 26/07/11 12:38 PM
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Quote turbodave:
Quote turbodave:
I have the
Sennheiser HD595s which are still available from Amazon for £120 I think. They are
discontinued which is why the price has been lowered. They are great! Dave
sorry! great headphones but inappropriate here!
Agreed - the 595s are the poor
man's HD 580 / 600.
They are very open headphones - great for mixing and
editing but with zero attenuation of external sound.
-------------------- John - Sound-Link ProAudio
President - Federation Internationale des Chasseurs de Sons
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turbodave
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Re: Headphones
[Re: John Willett]
#930460 - 26/07/11 07:41 PM
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Quote John Willett:
Quote turbodave:
Quote turbodave:
I have the
Sennheiser HD595s which are still available from Amazon for £120 I think. They are
discontinued which is why the price has been lowered. They are great! Dave
sorry! great headphones but inappropriate here!
Agreed - the 595s are the poor
man's HD 580 / 600.
They are very open headphones - great for mixing and
editing but with zero attenuation of external sound.
I had a very long PA day on Sunday and my Monday was a "brain switch
off" day. On these days I should not even read let alone post. Dave
-------------------- My head hurts!
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guitarist06
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Re: Headphones
[Re: turbodave]
#931303 - 30/07/11 12:28 AM
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hey, I know they're not the best in the world, but I figured I should throw out a shout
for the ATH M50's. I recently got some for about $110 and they are well worth it. after
about 30 hours of burn in they really flattened out nicely! worth checking out if
you're on a budget!
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