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Logic: Jogwheel to Scroll?
      #932812 - 06/08/11 09:38 PM
I can't find out how to do this in the Key Commands menu. Would like to scroll through arrange using jogwheel on my mouse a la Wavelab.

Sorry, I know many of you are using the trackpad and magic mouse devices but I'm on a Logitech at home.

Thanks.

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Re: Logic: Jogwheel to Scroll? new [Re: ken long]
      #932814 - 06/08/11 10:06 PM
The Logic key commands you want would be Shuttle Forward and Shuttle Rewind.

However, the Logitech Control Centre software I have won't let me assign key commands to the scroll wheel.

I used to use USB Overdrive, which probably would, and I loved that software, but unfortunately it breaks when having the Apple trackpad connected, so I've had to resort back to LCC.

You could always set up two spare mouse buttons to shuttle forward and back but sending the appropriate key commands to Logic.


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Re: Logic: Jogwheel to Scroll? new [Re: desmond]
      #932816 - 06/08/11 10:24 PM
Quote desmond:

The Logic key commands you want would be Shuttle Forward and Shuttle Rewind.

However, the Logitech Control Centre software I have won't let me assign key commands to the scroll wheel.




Same here. Well, I just can't assign it.

Quote:


You could always set up two spare mouse buttons to shuttle forward and back but sending the appropriate key commands to Logic.




Not sure what you mean by this. I'm on a very basic M100. Shoulda mentioned.

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Re: Logic: Jogwheel to Scroll? new [Re: ken long]
      #932824 - 06/08/11 11:24 PM
I have 9 buttons I think on my Logitech. If you don't have any to spare, then there's not much you can do.

You could always get one of these:



Or one of these:



Or use some other MIDI controller perhaps...


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Re: Logic: Jogwheel to Scroll? new [Re: desmond]
      #932888 - 07/08/11 06:26 PM
kensington have a switch in their mouse driver software (Mouseworks?) to swap the scroll wheel between horizontal and vertical scrolling.


so get a kensington mouse....


or just get an apple magic mouse. (or the track pad) , and scroll with 2 finger swipe on the top surface,

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Re: Logic: Jogwheel to Scroll? new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #932890 - 07/08/11 06:41 PM
Oh, if you were just talking about window scrolling, yes, a wheel mouse can do that just fine.

I thought you wanted to scrub the playhead with your mouse (hence the use of the "jogwheel" terminology, which is what that does.)

By default my mouse wheel scrolls vertically, while holding command and using the wheel scrolls horizontally. A few more modifiers are you can zoom etc too.


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Re: Logic: Jogwheel to Scroll? new [Re: ken long]
      #932894 - 07/08/11 07:35 PM
Steermouse ($20) is an excellent program which allows commands to be assigned to mouse buttons and wheel.
You can configure your mouse with different groups of settings for different applications.

I just tried my Logitech Mouse with sideways scrolling in Logic.
I assigned scroll left and right to Roll up (press) and Roll down(press). There are scroll speed and acceleration settings.
It worked OK.

A demo is available at:
http://plentycom.jp/en/steermouse/index.html


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Re: Logic: Jogwheel to Scroll? new [Re: desmond]
      #932900 - 07/08/11 09:18 PM
Quote desmond:

Oh, if you were just talking about window scrolling, yes, a wheel mouse can do that just fine.

I thought you wanted to scrub the playhead with your mouse (hence the use of the "jogwheel" terminology, which is what that does.)

By default my mouse wheel scrolls vertically, while holding command and using the wheel scrolls horizontally. A few more modifiers are you can zoom etc too.




Yes, that's what I want to do. Scroll through window horizontally. How can I set the mouse to do this?

I know holding down command does it but isn't there way of making this default?

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Re: Logic: Jogwheel to Scroll? new [Re: ken long]
      #932906 - 07/08/11 09:59 PM
Quote ken long:

I know holding down command does it but isn't there way of making this default?




Not in OSX, no, as far as I know. Vertical scrolling is the default (and sensible) option - it's a system thing, not a Logic thing.


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Re: Logic: Jogwheel to Scroll? new [Re: desmond]
      #932914 - 07/08/11 11:43 PM
I'd add that the Kensington thing can be switched using the switch in the scroll wheel..... So scroll vertically, then click the scroll wheel and bingo it scrolls horizontally .....

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Re: Logic: Jogwheel to Scroll? new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #932915 - 07/08/11 11:45 PM
Can you tell that my Kensington mini mouse was my favourite till the magic mouse came along???

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Re: Logic: Jogwheel to Scroll? new [Re: Studio Support Gnome]
      #933049 - 08/08/11 04:31 PM
Quote Max!:

Can you tell that my Kensington mini mouse was my favourite till the magic mouse came along???




I *hate* the magic mouse... horrible thing.

But yes - the scroll wheel on my Logitech has *three* buttons, so in addition to all the other things, if you click to the left and right it scrolls horizontally too, as well as having the regular centre click. Oh yeah - and it tracks on glass...


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Re: Logic: Jogwheel to Scroll? new [Re: desmond]
      #933054 - 08/08/11 04:42 PM
Quote desmond:

Quote ken long:

I know holding down command does it but isn't there way of making this default?




Not in OSX, no, as far as I know. Vertical scrolling is the default (and sensible) option - it's a system thing, not a Logic thing.




Yet Wavelab does just this. Even in montage view.

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Re: Logic: Jogwheel to Scroll? new [Re: ken long]
      #933058 - 08/08/11 04:51 PM
I don't use wavelab, but this makes sense, because in a wave editor editing one file, there is no such thing as vertical scrolling anyway, as usually the full vertical extent of the waveform is in view. I don't know how Wavelab behaves when editing multiple tracks, but there must be some kind of vertical scrolling available I would have thought.

So they've just decided to receive the conventional scrolling events and rather than just do nothing with them, they've mapped them to horizontal stuff - I think most wav editors do this, for instance Peak does.

This doesn't make as much sense for an app like a DAW where you have to often scroll both horizontally and vertically, and few DAWs that I'm aware of just reverse the typical OS behaviour for fear of confusing things.

You might be able to get an app to reverse the scroll wheel mapping just for one app - I can't remember offhand whether USB Overdrive will do this.

Bottom line is scrolling isn't essentially a "vertical" or "horizontal" thing - it *is* app dependent. But most apps, like Logic does, treat standard unmodifed scrolling as vertical unless vertical doesn't make sense.

Anyway - it is what it is... :shrugs:


Edited by desmond (08/08/11 04:54 PM)


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