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Henry-S
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Headphone mixes... from Stereo Input
      #939294 - 07/09/11 08:41 PM
Right, I am a bit puzzled about this so thought I would ask.. as you do!

When my band practice in our room we have drums, guitar and vocals running into the pc and its not ideal because the instruments are fighting for space through the monitors. Now i run the equipment into the pc because it just makes practice simple and less mucking around + we record everything and edit good ideas if we like them. I then thought about getting a headphone amp so we could practise on headphones which would make things easier and I could setup headphone mixes for each of us with our instruments mixed a little higher or whatever we want. Then looking at different amps it suddenly dawned on me "stereo input"...

So how does one achieve individual headphone mixes with only a stereo input, or rather as I suspect you probably cannot. So it leaves me with two ideas

1. Have 4 individual headphone amps and feed each of them with a signal from an analog out on my soundcard and create individual mixes.
2. The option I prefer being a single amp which can handle say 4 stereo inputs and output to 4 sets of headphones.

So can anyone suggest what would be the best way of doing this? I don't want something uber expensive but obviously not in the behringer land when it will have to be replaced in 12 months time! Many Thanks for any help offered

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Re: Headphone mixes... from Stereo Input new [Re: Henry-S]
      #939317 - 07/09/11 10:00 PM
Actually Behringer's headphone amp is okay and robust enough, and it has an extra 'auxiliary' input for each channel, and provides four separately controllable outputs.

But do you have a way of getting an extra auxiliary signal containing only one instrument into each channel, such as a mixer with direct outs, or some submix channels -- this will allow you to have each person hearing themselves louder if they want?

(Can't say that regular rehearsal through headphones floats my boat, but I know bands that do it.)


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Re: Headphone mixes... from Stereo Input new [Re: Henry-S]
      #939332 - 07/09/11 11:06 PM
Well I have 8 analog outputs on the motu 828 which obviously come out at line level. I imagine the aux input on the front of the behringer would want a line level signal?

So I could probably have a mix out so analog out 1+2 sending a full mix of everything that could be tweaked to get overall balance and then send out

3 - drums
4 - bass
5 - guitar
6 - vocals

and if they were each in on the players aux, then they could balance up the mix between the full stereo mix + their instrument. Does it not cause any audible problems having the same signal present in the stereo mix and the aux? eg, full stereo mix + the drums in via aux, would I end up with anything phasing in the headphones?

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Re: Headphone mixes... from Stereo Input new [Re: Henry-S]
      #939389 - 08/09/11 07:53 AM
Suggest you have a look at these....

JamHub - Rehearsal Studio

The 'TourBus' even has a built-in recorder...

Very innovative product; I've installed one as an IEM system for a church.


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Re: Headphone mixes... from Stereo Input new [Re: Henry-S]
      #939787 - 09/09/11 02:30 PM
They look great but I'm not sure I really want to spend 250 on what could probably be achieved with buying a good headphone amp. I already run everything into the computer so don't need built in effects and we run our electric kit off samples so would have to plug the card into the jamhub.

I am thinking probably an ART headphone amp would do the job and if I have a template for routing everything out of the computer to the headphone amp then it would be pretty simple to setup and I can leave the patch cables wired in because I don't really use much outboard gear.

Thanks for the replies

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Re: Headphone mixes... from Stereo Input new [Re: Henry-S]
      #939801 - 09/09/11 03:10 PM
Ok; I'm not trying to sell you a JamHub - I have no connection with the company apart from being a regular contributor to their forum.

However, I don't know of any other single unit that gives such versatility. Depending on the model, up to 7 musos get to dial-in their own unique monitor mix of 7/14 separate sources.

The defence rests m'lord...


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