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Dee
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A rather embarrassing question..... new
      #946582 - 11/10/11 07:53 PM
....I see controller keyboards now seem to hook up to midi via USB. I always thought midi was....well with a midi cable. I am so out of this particular loop it is scary. Do these midi controller keyboards just hook up to a PC with a standard USB connection and voila....you get the same functionality as you did with the old style midi in/out/thru

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Re: A rather embarrassing question..... new [Re: Dee]
      #946584 - 11/10/11 08:18 PM
Ultimately, it's just digital information.
My M-Audio keyboard does midi over USB, no problem. I can't chain anything from the keyboard though.

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Re: A rather embarrassing question..... [Re: Dee]
      #946587 - 11/10/11 08:29 PM
MIDI is the protocol; the 'language' that MIDI-enabled devices use (note on/off messages, velocity, 128-step CC numbers, etc). Traditionally it was shuttled around via those 5-pin DIN plugs and sockets you're talking about, but it can be sent via USB (or Ethernet, or indeed within the computer itself - between your sequencer and virtual instruments, for example). MIDI doesn't require much bandwidth (the amount of data is tiny compared with, say, audio), so things like USB and Ethernet can carry hundreds and hundreds of MIDI channels at a time. In fact it's been used with different connectors for ages — I've got an ancient MIDI keyboard that has a socket for hooking up to computer joystick ports (it can even take power from it too!).

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Re: A rather embarrassing question..... new [Re: Dee]
      #946590 - 11/10/11 08:45 PM
Thanks so much for the replies. Yeah, I always thought it was the standard midi cable and that was it. I did hear about connecting via USB before but automatically dismissed it as maybe some sort of cut down internal link between keyboard and PC. Never actually thought that USB had full midi functionality and carried all the controls!! You learn something new every day so cheers for answering my rather basic and embarrassing question!!

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Re: A rather embarrassing question..... new [Re: Dee]
      #946603 - 11/10/11 10:18 PM
Quote Dee:

Do these midi controller keyboards just hook up to a PC with a standard USB connection and voila....you get the same functionality as you did with the old style midi in/out/thru



Yep. Means you don't need a separate MIDI interface device, which is nice.


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Re: A rather embarrassing question..... new [Re: Dee]
      #946683 - 12/10/11 11:15 AM
...and in my experience occasionally the USB link can have slightly lower latency than a standard MIDI connection, which is nice!


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Re: A rather embarrassing question..... new [Re: Dee]
      #947982 - 19/10/11 12:44 PM
Ohhhhh - lower latency always brings a smile to my face Martin

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