vetsdiggy
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Reel to Reel service?
#954277 - 19/11/11 11:18 AM
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Hey all I have my Fostex B-16 which I fired up for use the other day. Its in
almost puuurfect condition! The heads look great and it sounds fine recording, all seems
to be in order appart from one thing! A couple of the channels seem to not fully
wipe what was on the channel when recording over it! I can only assume its to do with
the erase head? Is it maybe just in need of configuring or does it sound like a new
head? Thanks for any advice! Steve
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Chaconne
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Loc: Oxford
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Re: Reel to Reel service?
[Re: vetsdiggy]
#954313 - 19/11/11 06:18 PM
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First, make sure everything is clean. Any deviation from shiny, fluff and oxide deposit
free heads can cause problems - so make sure you give them a good going over with cleaner
and a cotton bud.
Secondly, after cleaning, have a good look at the heads for
signs of wear. You can normaly get away with quite a lot of erosion (!), but if not all
channels are affected look for signs of damage specific to the area of the heads dealing
with that channel, maybe some asymetrical damage has occured.
The head might
also need de-magnetising, this can lead to a loss of erasing function.
Of
course it still might be some electrical fault after all of this, loose transmission
somwhere, but 90% of signal loss comes down to head problems in my experience.
If you feel confident you can check board seating and connection ribbons yourself.
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Folderol
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Re: Reel to Reel service?
[Re: vetsdiggy]
#954315 - 19/11/11 06:29 PM
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Which two tracks are the problem? If it's the outside ones then head wear may have
resulted in 'tramlines' which stop the tape seating snugly on the edges. If you are not
sure (and it can be quite hard to see sometimes) run a fingernail lightly up the head and
see if you can feel a ridge.
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James Perrett
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Re: Reel to Reel service?
[Re: Folderol]
#954334 - 19/11/11 10:32 PM
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Quote Folderol:
Which two tracks
are the problem? If it's the outside ones then head wear may have resulted in 'tramlines'
which stop the tape seating snugly on the edges.
That's a very good point. One problem that I've had with Fostex
machines was with tape that had been slit slightly wider than normal. The edge tracks
performed badly because the tape rode up over the edge of the groove that had been worn
into the head by the narrower tape. Some machines have heads with small grooves next to
the edge tracks in order to get over this problem but Fostex heads don't.
However, I suspect the problem here is dirty heads. It can sometimes take more effort
than expected to completely clean the heads of stubborn dirt. Cotton buds and pure
isopropanol are what I use.
James.
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vetsdiggy
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Re: Reel to Reel service?
[Re: James Perrett]
#954336 - 19/11/11 10:50 PM
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Thanks guys. I know channel one is effected, but I think two may be as well, and I
haven't checked 16 so not sure about that? I have the stuff to clean the heads so
I'll try that first! I'll let you know how I get on! On another note, in your
experience, how many times can you record over the same tape before you would expect to
notice the quality loss? I'm using ampex gold and quantegy tape. Cheers!
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Chaconne
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Loc: Oxford
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Re: Reel to Reel service?
[Re: vetsdiggy]
#954351 - 20/11/11 01:55 AM
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Its difficult to quantify this since it depends on the quality of the tape, and the
mehcanical 'soundness' of the machine.
Theoretically, a good new tape, that is
not shedding will last a long time, but realistically the machine will begin to erode the
tape if it is not in perfect alignment, or if the tolerances of the machine are
insufficient, - i.e lesser quality. So obviously a well maintained pro machine can use a
tape more times than a poorly kept domestic machine.
The other factor that can
limit tape usage is erasing ability. The hanging around of old recordings can eventually
end a tapes usefulness. Using a separate bulk eraser can mitigate this.
Check
your machine for signs of wear and tear, patterns on the tape etc. Also keep some tape
unused, held back for critical recordings or masters. If it is important, clean rollers
and heads before any important recordings. Use one roll for experiments, keep using it
until you can hear problems like lack of erasure, or mechanical problems like stretched or
patternated tape. This is the only way you will know.
Also never use old tape
that is prone to shedding like some old Ampex rolls!!!
Personaly for mastering
I would want to use a fresh tape or less than 10 times, but would be happier for tracking
using tape until I could hear dropouts. This is very hard to predict frustratingly. So
use it until you cant trust it!!
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ef37a
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Re: Reel to Reel service?
[Re: vetsdiggy]
#954371 - 20/11/11 09:16 AM
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It could be the write/read alignment that is off whack in which case the erase function is
fine, it is just "missing" all the signal.
Try flipping the tape over and
running erase again.
Dave.
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James Perrett
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Re: Reel to Reel service?
[Re: vetsdiggy]
#954428 - 20/11/11 05:31 PM
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Quote vetsdiggy:
On another
note, in your experience, how many times can you record over the same tape before you
would expect to notice the quality loss? I'm using ampex gold and quantegy tape.
It will go sticky before
it wears out through over use.
James.
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http://www.jrpmusic.net
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