zenguitar
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Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem
#960051 - 21/12/11 12:57 PM
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Just received my subscription copy and took a look at the poster. I remember the charts
from the original magazine material and thought it was a great idea to put them on a
poster. I thought it was great to have a keyboard map showing the frequencies
of all the notes. But that chart is completely wrong. And not just consistently transposed
by, say, a 5th but utterly bonkers wrong. Using A 440 as a reference (because
it keeps the maths easy), the A in octave 8 is correct but all the other octaves are
wrong. Octave 6 doesn't even have a correct frequency for any A!! Count down 12 white
notes from A8 on the poster and you come to C7 which is labelled as 880Hz.. OOPS... Looks like someone has been given a list of all the note frequencies and forgotten
to cross out the black notes before mapping against the diagram. Andy 
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Matt Houghton
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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem
[Re: zenguitar]
#960053 - 21/12/11 01:10 PM
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Hi Andy, We'd already spotted this and are on the case. Regrettably, a
production error caused a misalignment of numbers and letters. A revised — correct —
version will be going out in the Feb issue which is going to print in the next couple of
days. Regards, Matt. 
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zenguitar
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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem
[Re: zenguitar]
#960063 - 21/12/11 01:49 PM
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Well, you can't do better than that  My only decision now is... who do I give the January poster to... WICKED
GRIN Andy
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Hugh Robjohns
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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem
[Re: zenguitar]
#960066 - 21/12/11 01:59 PM
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It will be interesting to see how many of the faulty ones are still pinned up in
universities and audio colleges across the land in the months to come!  Hugh
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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem
[Re: Hugh Robjohns]
#960072 - 21/12/11 02:08 PM
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Ah, the classic "I was testing you" manoeuvre! I remember some of my teachers at school
using that one...
Cheers!
Chris
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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem
[Re: Korff]
#960082 - 21/12/11 03:22 PM
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Will the new chart be available on-line for digital/print mag subscribers? I am still
awaiting delivery of my December issue, so it will be some time before I see a physical
copy in my mail box.
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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem
[Re: zenguitar]
#960098 - 21/12/11 04:49 PM
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Hi, There seems to be problem with my frequency chart.... instead of a frequency chart I
have a full frontal of Paul White oiled up in a leather thong. Its a nice poster but will
it help me analyse my mixes? Dave
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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem
[Re: turbodave]
#960100 - 21/12/11 04:55 PM
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As a Gold Level subscriber you should get both the Paul poster and the chart. Silver Level
subscribers only get the chart. You should get in touch with Paul directly if you're
missing the poster, just describe it as you did here and he'll know what you're talking
about.
Cheers!
Chris
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zenguitar
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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem
[Re: turbodave]
#960104 - 21/12/11 05:04 PM
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Quote turbodave:
Hi, There seems
to be problem with my frequency chart.... instead of a frequency chart I have a full
frontal of Paul White oiled up in a leather thong. Its a nice poster but will it help me
analyse my mixes? Dave
It's
10W-40... we warned him not to change the engine oil without Hugh's assistance.
5W-30 and 15W-40 can also be used to make your mixes smoother. Try them all and see
which sounds best to you 
Andy
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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem
[Re: ronmac]
#960120 - 21/12/11 05:31 PM
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Quote ronmac:
Will the new chart
be available on-line for digital/print mag subscribers? I am still awaiting delivery of my
December issue, so it will be some time before I see a physical copy in my mail box.
Good question. I'll put it to
the powers that be and someone will get back to you here.
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ronmac
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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem
[Re: turbodave]
#960121 - 21/12/11 05:31 PM
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Quote turbodave:
Hi, There seems
to be problem with my frequency chart.... instead of a frequency chart I have a full
frontal of Paul White oiled up in a leather thong. Its a nice poster but will it help me
analyse my mixes? Dave
Considering the content perhaps I'm not in such a hurry to receive the latest issues
 In the
future I shall be very careful in opening any center-folds.
Edited by ronmac (21/12/11 05:31 PM)
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feline1
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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem
[Re: zenguitar]
#961464 - 02/01/12 07:36 AM
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(I noticed this too, but I see you already have it in hand
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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem
[Re: zenguitar]
#961470 - 02/01/12 09:47 AM
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I tried playing some of my compositions using the new frequencies and they are much
improved. Thanks SOS for revising those boring, outdated notes to something that better
represents 21st century mankind!
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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem
[Re: zenguitar]
#961708 - 03/01/12 07:01 PM
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Best April edition in years! A.
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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem
[Re: zenguitar]
#964818 - 18/01/12 05:35 PM
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....cept of course there's a mistake in the new chart a=400 hz??? - where the g
sharp below is at 415.305hz and the b flat above is 466.164! someone needs to
have a quiet word with the printers, methnks!
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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem
[Re: zenguitar]
#964826 - 18/01/12 06:08 PM
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Still - it's only the most quoted note in the history of western music  Andi
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soothingtones
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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem
[Re: Andi]
#964848 - 18/01/12 08:43 PM
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Quote Andi:
Still - it's only the
most quoted note in the history of western music
Andi
I've just noticed
this as well 
Good luck for version 3
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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem
[Re: soothingtones]
#964859 - 18/01/12 09:28 PM
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... and good luck for version 4 too. Hee.
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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem
[Re: Scramble]
#964940 - 19/01/12 10:38 AM
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2012 obviously hasn't started as a very good year for us has it?!
Can't really offer any excuses -- it's a very embarassing cock up despite the huge
amount of time and effort that went into proof-reading this re-made version.
All I can assume is that so much attention was focussed on correcting the technical
problem that led to the original error that this middle-A freq error slipped past
unoticed.
Most of the SOS management are out at the NAMM show at the moment
so they won't be able to discuss how to resolve this faux pas until next week... but I'm
sure we'll find some way of resolving it... even if it comes down to including a free
marker pen in the next issue along with precise instructions on how to write the numeral 4
neatly in the appropriate place! 
hugh
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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem
[Re: Hugh Robjohns]
#965043 - 19/01/12 07:53 PM
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you'll need to include some tipex as well
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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem
[Re: zenguitar]
#965113 - 20/01/12 08:01 AM
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I thought it was a calendar of some kind.
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Scramble
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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem
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#965178 - 20/01/12 12:05 PM
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Good thing for SoS that these posters cost absolutely nothing to produce.
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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem
[Re: zenguitar]
#966074 - 24/01/12 01:14 PM
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Apologies to all concerned — that '400.000' is my error. I proofread it and signed it
off for print. I've checked that the numbers I submitted for layout were correct, so there
must have been a cut-and-paste or retyping error introduced at the page-makeup stage
(which happens, of course: I'm certainly not blaming our graphics department). I can only
assume that in the course of exhaustively checking all those six-digit numbers, I got to
'440.000' — the only one that I retain in my head, like many people — and somehow
'saw' it as correct, when it obviously wasn't.
Normal process would have seen it
proofed by a second pair of eyes, but we were flat out on magazine production and I
decided to trust my own diligence and accuracy. Possibly not my best decision ever...
My fault entirely. Sorry.
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ronmac
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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem
[Re: Dave Lockwood]
#969552 - 10/02/12 10:52 PM
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I am a subscriber in Canada and just received the Feb. edition. Should there have been a
chart included?
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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem
[Re: ronmac]
#969571 - 11/02/12 09:37 AM
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Yes I'm a subscriber in france and I don't find the audio frequency poster in the digital
edition ?
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Paraic
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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem
[Re: babaorum]
#971156 - 20/02/12 01:10 PM
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Hi there
Was the correct chart meant to be in the March 2012 edition ?
Regards
Paraic
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Hugh Robjohns
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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem
[Re: Paraic]
#971171 - 20/02/12 02:11 PM
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I've replied in the other parallel thread on this, HERE and will lock this thread to avoid further duplication. hugh
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