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Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem new
      #960051 - 21/12/11 12:57 PM
Just received my subscription copy and took a look at the poster. I remember the charts from the original magazine material and thought it was a great idea to put them on a poster.

I thought it was great to have a keyboard map showing the frequencies of all the notes. But that chart is completely wrong. And not just consistently transposed by, say, a 5th but utterly bonkers wrong.

Using A 440 as a reference (because it keeps the maths easy), the A in octave 8 is correct but all the other octaves are wrong. Octave 6 doesn't even have a correct frequency for any A!! Count down 12 white notes from A8 on the poster and you come to C7 which is labelled as 880Hz.. OOPS...

Looks like someone has been given a list of all the note frequencies and forgotten to cross out the black notes before mapping against the diagram.

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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem new [Re: zenguitar]
      #960053 - 21/12/11 01:10 PM
Hi Andy,

We'd already spotted this and are on the case. Regrettably, a production error caused a misalignment of numbers and letters. A revised — correct — version will be going out in the Feb issue which is going to print in the next couple of days.

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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem new [Re: zenguitar]
      #960063 - 21/12/11 01:49 PM
Well, you can't do better than that

My only decision now is... who do I give the January poster to...

WICKED GRIN

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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem new [Re: zenguitar]
      #960066 - 21/12/11 01:59 PM
It will be interesting to see how many of the faulty ones are still pinned up in universities and audio colleges across the land in the months to come!

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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem new [Re: Hugh Robjohns]
      #960072 - 21/12/11 02:08 PM
Ah, the classic "I was testing you" manoeuvre! I remember some of my teachers at school using that one...

Cheers!

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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem new [Re: The Korff]
      #960082 - 21/12/11 03:22 PM
Will the new chart be available on-line for digital/print mag subscribers? I am still awaiting delivery of my December issue, so it will be some time before I see a physical copy in my mail box.


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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem new [Re: zenguitar]
      #960098 - 21/12/11 04:49 PM
Hi, There seems to be problem with my frequency chart.... instead of a frequency chart I have a full frontal of Paul White oiled up in a leather thong. Its a nice poster but will it help me analyse my mixes? Dave

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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem new [Re: turbodave]
      #960100 - 21/12/11 04:55 PM
As a Gold Level subscriber you should get both the Paul poster and the chart. Silver Level subscribers only get the chart. You should get in touch with Paul directly if you're missing the poster, just describe it as you did here and he'll know what you're talking about.

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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem [Re: turbodave]
      #960104 - 21/12/11 05:04 PM
Quote turbodave:

Hi, There seems to be problem with my frequency chart.... instead of a frequency chart I have a full frontal of Paul White oiled up in a leather thong. Its a nice poster but will it help me analyse my mixes? Dave




It's 10W-40... we warned him not to change the engine oil without Hugh's assistance.

5W-30 and 15W-40 can also be used to make your mixes smoother. Try them all and see which sounds best to you

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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem new [Re: ronmac]
      #960120 - 21/12/11 05:31 PM
Quote ronmac:

Will the new chart be available on-line for digital/print mag subscribers? I am still awaiting delivery of my December issue, so it will be some time before I see a physical copy in my mail box.




Good question. I'll put it to the powers that be and someone will get back to you here.


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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem new [Re: turbodave]
      #960121 - 21/12/11 05:31 PM
Quote turbodave:

Hi, There seems to be problem with my frequency chart.... instead of a frequency chart I have a full frontal of Paul White oiled up in a leather thong. Its a nice poster but will it help me analyse my mixes? Dave




Considering the content perhaps I'm not in such a hurry to receive the latest issues In the future I shall be very careful in opening any center-folds.

Edited by ronmac (21/12/11 05:31 PM)


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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem new [Re: zenguitar]
      #961464 - 02/01/12 07:36 AM
(I noticed this too, but I see you already have it in hand

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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem new [Re: zenguitar]
      #961470 - 02/01/12 09:47 AM
I tried playing some of my compositions using the new frequencies and they are much improved. Thanks SOS for revising those boring, outdated notes to something that better represents 21st century mankind!

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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem new [Re: zenguitar]
      #961708 - 03/01/12 07:01 PM
Best April edition in years!

A.

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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem new [Re: zenguitar]
      #964818 - 18/01/12 05:35 PM
....cept of course there's a mistake in the new chart

a=400 hz??? - where the g sharp below is at 415.305hz and the b flat above is 466.164!

someone needs to have a quiet word with the printers, methnks!

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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem new [Re: zenguitar]
      #964826 - 18/01/12 06:08 PM
Still - it's only the most quoted note in the history of western music

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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem new [Re: Andi]
      #964848 - 18/01/12 08:43 PM
Quote Andi:

Still - it's only the most quoted note in the history of western music

Andi




I've just noticed this as well

Good luck for version 3


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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem new [Re: soothingtones]
      #964859 - 18/01/12 09:28 PM
... and good luck for version 4 too. Hee.


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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem new [Re: Scramble]
      #964940 - 19/01/12 10:38 AM


2012 obviously hasn't started as a very good year for us has it?!

Can't really offer any excuses -- it's a very embarassing cock up despite the huge amount of time and effort that went into proof-reading this re-made version.

All I can assume is that so much attention was focussed on correcting the technical problem that led to the original error that this middle-A freq error slipped past unoticed.

Most of the SOS management are out at the NAMM show at the moment so they won't be able to discuss how to resolve this faux pas until next week... but I'm sure we'll find some way of resolving it... even if it comes down to including a free marker pen in the next issue along with precise instructions on how to write the numeral 4 neatly in the appropriate place!

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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem new [Re: Hugh Robjohns]
      #965043 - 19/01/12 07:53 PM
you'll need to include some tipex as well

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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem new [Re: zenguitar]
      #965113 - 20/01/12 08:01 AM
I thought it was a calendar of some kind.


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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem new [Re: Paul Farrer]
      #965178 - 20/01/12 12:05 PM
Good thing for SoS that these posters cost absolutely nothing to produce.


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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem new [Re: zenguitar]
      #966074 - 24/01/12 01:14 PM
Apologies to all concerned — that '400.000' is my error. I proofread it and signed it off for print. I've checked that the numbers I submitted for layout were correct, so there must have been a cut-and-paste or retyping error introduced at the page-makeup stage (which happens, of course: I'm certainly not blaming our graphics department). I can only assume that in the course of exhaustively checking all those six-digit numbers, I got to '440.000' — the only one that I retain in my head, like many people — and somehow 'saw' it as correct, when it obviously wasn't.
Normal process would have seen it proofed by a second pair of eyes, but we were flat out on magazine production and I decided to trust my own diligence and accuracy. Possibly not my best decision ever...
My fault entirely. Sorry.


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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem new [Re: Dave Lockwood]
      #969552 - 10/02/12 10:52 PM
I am a subscriber in Canada and just received the Feb. edition. Should there have been a chart included?


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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem new [Re: ronmac]
      #969571 - 11/02/12 09:37 AM
Yes I'm a subscriber in france and I don't find the audio frequency poster in the digital edition ?

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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem new [Re: babaorum]
      #971156 - 20/02/12 01:10 PM
Hi there

Was the correct chart meant to be in the March 2012 edition ?

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Re: Jan 2012 issue - Audio Freq Chart problem new [Re: Paraic]
      #971171 - 20/02/12 02:11 PM
I've replied in the other parallel thread on this, HERE and will lock this thread to avoid further duplication.

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