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Madman_Greg



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AB/Y Pedal recommendations new
      #959305 - 16/12/11 03:42 PM
AB/Y Pedal recommendations

I need to purchase one of these so I can run a single guitar into 2 amps for recording without getting hum, noise etc... that I am getting using a home made cable based setup

I think these are primarily passive devices. And price appoears to range from £25 - £70ish and more .

Any recommendations on the cheaper side of the above price range please, especially as this is not something I plan to use a lot

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Re: AB/Y Pedal recommendations new [Re: Madman_Greg]
      #959318 - 16/12/11 04:50 PM
I have the ART Coolswitch.
Its ok, not used it much but from what I remember it seemed to introduce a bit of hum and dulled the signal a little in the tops for me.

Haven't really used it since....

If I was going to buy another I'd probably look at the Radial one...


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Re: AB/Y Pedal recommendations new [Re: Madman_Greg]
      #959483 - 18/12/11 09:56 AM
In the bargain basement, I'm using a Thomann one (branded as LeadFoot IIRC). It's not broken yet, and not noticed it affecting tone. Do watch the sockets though - they have a tendency to unscrew (although that's true of all nutted sockets).


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Re: AB/Y Pedal recommendations new [Re: Madman_Greg]
      #959544 - 18/12/11 05:24 PM
Asked a similar question (but for live work) a couple of months ago - some very useful tips in the replies (click here for the thread).

HTH.


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Re: AB/Y Pedal recommendations new [Re: alfredo]
      #959572 - 18/12/11 10:43 PM
Thanks for the replies.

I have done a bit more research and thinking and have decided the following

If I have hum / noise problems with my hard wired cable set up then I am still going to get it with the AB/Y pedals that are purely switches, as this is effectively the same solution.

The Radial one though has a isolation transformer / buffer type design so I would have thought reduction or elimination of noise would be better with this sort of design.

Out of interest, how would this be approached in a professional studio

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Re: AB/Y Pedal recommendations new [Re: Madman_Greg]
      #959977 - 21/12/11 06:20 AM
As I am a lazy sot (always have been, can't blame age for this one), I'd take two runs at it & fix it in the mix. That allows better approach to the best configuration for each tone.

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Re: AB/Y Pedal recommendations new [Re: Tony Raven]
      #960196 - 22/12/11 12:32 AM


Tony, I do like combining a clean tone with a crunch / distorted tone and I think it adds to the depth of tone. So that my motivation for doing this.

I have demoed this with the hum/noise and get what I want sound wise. And as I now want to get serious with some recording, i.e. I am out of pre product / arrangement demos stage, as I call them, I want to fix

I can place both amps in different rooms so have no issue with separation

Reamping is an option, but I never really get the vibe when recording a clean guitar. I can generally live without effects when recording though.

Understand double tracking is an option and I can do this given time and patience, but I quite often find I play stuff slightly differently second time through.

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Re: AB/Y Pedal recommendations [Re: Madman_Greg]
      #960330 - 22/12/11 08:24 PM
Lehle or Radial.

Little else.


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Re: AB/Y Pedal recommendations new [Re: Madman_Greg]
      #960338 - 22/12/11 09:20 PM
Little Lehle.

Quiet and reliable. And built like a brick privy.


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Re: AB/Y Pedal recommendations new [Re: Madman_Greg]
      #960469 - 23/12/11 09:34 PM
http://www.loooper.com/

I imported a pedal from these guys in the US and it was just as cheap as buying one in the UK including duties. It's also the best laid out pedal I could find.

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Re: AB/Y Pedal recommendations new [Re: Bakerman]
      #960501 - 24/12/11 09:47 AM
Quote Bakerman:

http://www.loooper.com/

I imported a pedal from these guys in the US and it was just as cheap as buying one in the UK including duties. It's also the best laid out pedal I could find.




There's some pedal builders on eBay that will do it cheaper, problem is that it will still have the some issues with hum as they'll act the same as a wired solution.

Personally I'd get the Radial, or the Lehle if I had deeper pockets.


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Re: AB/Y Pedal recommendations new [Re: Madman_Greg]
      #960890 - 28/12/11 12:27 PM
In a studio you can take a DI and then split the signal inside the board, that was one of the options.

For the most part we recorded a DI signal and a mic signal onto separate tracks, the DI later used as reamp source if needed. For my personal box I use a Radial Stereo Passive DI and the studio I workout of has been stocked with Groove Tubes Passive DI which I also like but they're becoming hard to find.

You could also try a Morley ABY pedal but that might be also a bit noisy.

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