RichardHK
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AudioCubes - For live performance
#962165 - 06/01/12 05:01 AM
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Dear All, Looking for help and advice on a relatively new AV technology that my
music composition son likes the look and feel of. He has reasonable MIDI skills but to me,
these items seem to be too limiting in their application - or am I missing something? Q1: Has anyone here used these AudioCubes (AV midi devices, not the monitors)? Are
they useful? Q2: If any users out there - would starting off with one or two
cubes be practical? http://www.percussa.com/Would have thought SOS would have
picked up on these for a review or news comment at least. But nothing - which further
dampens my interest. Thanks for any advice or comments. Richard
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RichardHK
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Re: AudioCubes - For live performance
[Re: RichardHK]
#965684 - 23/01/12 03:38 AM
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Oh well... 241 views (thanks all) and no comments in 2 weeks.
Guess that means these
oddball items are just that. Odd cubes indeed. Better skip and find something else to
spend precious time and money on.
Richard
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Martin Walker
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Re: AudioCubes - For live performance
[Re: RichardHK]
#965831 - 23/01/12 04:10 PM
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Hi Richard, Sorry you got no replies, but given that if you try to buy some of
those AudioCubes you get the message “Due to large interest there is a waiting list for
AudioCubes. Enter your email address to join” it’s perhaps not surprising that others
here haven’t any experience with them  They certainly look interesting though!  Martin
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James Perrett
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Re: AudioCubes - For live performance
[Re: RichardHK]
#965844 - 23/01/12 04:56 PM
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Possibly an unfortunate choice of name as some people will assume that you're talking
about a very expensive audio workstation - The Audiocube DAW. James.
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RichardHK
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Re: AudioCubes - For live performance
[Re: RichardHK]
#965877 - 23/01/12 07:03 PM
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Hi Martin and James, That long waiting list might be a marketing ploy (?). My
boy, who is interested in these devices, sent an enquiry email and he can get them as soon
as he confirms/pays. Demand not so high it seems. Makes me worry a little more - on behalf
of the lad that is, as he will pay with his own hard-earned cash this time.  Searching on Google for Audio Cubes also turns up, urr.. Audio Cube monitors too. Thanks for your comments. Richard
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Bob Moose
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Re: AudioCubes - For live performance
[Re: RichardHK]
#965891 - 23/01/12 08:27 PM
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I guess these are controllers that use distance as the control parameter. They put it into
nice looking cubes with built-in LEDs whose intensity changes automatically with the
distance. I have no idea how to integrate this system into a music software though
(hopefully something like MIDI or OSC).
I never used these particular
devices, but similar ones when making some public interactive artistic installations.
You can make more or less the same with the Doepfer Poket Electronics and
distance sensors, for example. The advantage of the Pocket Electronics (and similar
solutions) is that you can choose the sensors you want: you are not limited to distance
sensors and you can use pressure sensors, potentiometers, light dependant resistors,
presence sensors, flexible sensors, ribbons, etc.
Cheers
-j
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RichardHK
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Re: AudioCubes - For live performance
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#965955 - 24/01/12 05:49 AM
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Thanks for that Bob, yes they have just distance sensors I believe. A software package is
supplied to link them to your DAW, but just a little too simple in my mind. You also need
a dark room to appreciate the cube colour changes so no use for a large venue, or daytime
show.
Have passed on your info to my boy for his follow up research. He
is wanting to do interactive live shows.
Richard
Edited by RichardHK (24/01/12 05:50 AM)
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humandrums
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Re: AudioCubes - For live performance
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#965956 - 24/01/12 06:29 AM
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there really cool looking, never seen anyone using them live closest i can think of is
maybe jean michelle jarre used something along these lines?
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Pete Kaine
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Re: AudioCubes - For live performance
[Re: James Perrett]
#965981 - 24/01/12 10:19 AM
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Quote James Perrett:
Possibly an
unfortunate choice of name as some people will assume that you're talking about a very
expensive audio workstation - The Audiocube DAW.
Never seen that before.... I actually assumed he meant http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr07/articles/avantonemixcubes.htm
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Martin Walker
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Re: AudioCubes - For live performance
[Re: RichardHK]
#966048 - 24/01/12 12:22 PM
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Bob Moose
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Re: AudioCubes - For live performance
[Re: RichardHK]
#966917 - 28/01/12 12:38 PM
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Quote RichardHK:
Thanks for that
Bob, yes they have just distance sensors I believe. A software package is supplied to link
them to your DAW, but just a little too simple in my mind. You also need a dark room to
appreciate the cube colour changes so no use for a large venue, or daytime show.
Have passed on your info to my boy for his follow up research. He is wanting to do
interactive live shows.
Richard
Well for interactive live shows these Audio Cubes are rather limited
I'm afraid. I mean, you can do something interesting using them, but what will you do the
next time? I guess it will sound / look too similar.
Most people who do
interactive live shows use more open hardware like the Doepfer I mentioned (the Doepfer
website itself is a good introduction to open electronics). There are many other solutions
but they all use the same idea: converting analogue control voltages into MIDI data, or
OSC in some cases. To put it differently, it's a kind of control surface on which you can
choose the physical controls, like sliders, light-dependent resistors, pressure sensors,
flexion sensors, distance sensors, etc (there are countless types of compatible sensors).
It does not require any high-level electronics skills, besides perhaps soldering or
identifying the right pins on the board.
When it comes to software for live
interactive shows, many people use Pure Data or Max (because it is easy to integrate
hardware interfaces with them), or similar programs. But depending on the context you can
really use what you want, including usual DAWs with VSTs, or even your own programs.
Cheers
-j
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Re: AudioCubes - For live performance
[Re: RichardHK]
#966924 - 28/01/12 01:03 PM
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These (or something very like them) made an appearance on an Gadget Show repeat this
morning.
They look like another of those 'Technically impressive, but would I
really use them?' type oddities.
I have a 'Boggle' game that uses a set of
tiles that work out where they are in relation to one another and allow you to make words.
It's good fun, but accidentally knock them and it gets very confused, occasionally locking
up altogether!
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RichardHK
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Re: AudioCubes - For live performance
[Re: RichardHK]
#967007 - 29/01/12 05:50 AM
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>>They look like another of those 'Technically impressive, but would I really use
them?' type oddities.<<
Thanks again all for input here. The Elf's
comment is well in line with my advice to my boy. I can understand his desire to do
something special, and Michel Jarre is certainly a good model for doing interesting stuff.
But his theremin-like laser number I saw was not something you could repeat too often as
noted above by Bob.
Edited by RichardHK (29/01/12 05:51 AM)
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