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Visual communication in music
#962230 - 06/01/12 01:53 PM
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Hello forum,
I listened to a very interesting programme on R4 earlier in the
week where an anthropological expert was positing the theory that humans, as a race, could
survive extremely effectively nowadays if their only form of communication was subtle
movements of the eyebrow.
I mused how this might affect the way we make music
if we lived in such a world. One could argue for example, that 'eyebrow communication'
could perhaps allow us to work to a purer, more simplistic style of music.
If
one considers a collaborative process for example, the most effective way of communicating
would be to play single notes. As a result, the collaborative partner could express
delight, indifference or even disgust at that note with pre-agreed eyebrow movements.
Chords and textures could also be possible but more complex rhythms might cause
problems.
It certainly made me think of how we take our music making for
granted and perhaps it is worth trying a session of eyebrow communication for those of us
who collaborate, just to see if anything interesting comes out of the process. You never
know.
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artzmusic
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Re: Visual communication in music
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#962232 - 06/01/12 02:24 PM
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Two types of communication depending on class. You've got your High-brow class and your
Lowenbrau class. If the latter, eye'm in.
Rick
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Frisonic
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Re: Visual communication in music
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#962237 - 06/01/12 03:32 PM
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Having a rather notorious anthropologist in my extended family (aka Professor Mayhem) I
have long since learned to take much of what they say with a large pinch of salt. I don't
think he does Radio 4 much but Newsnight usually wheel him in if there's an 'eat the rich'
riot going on. His crowd all hanker after that time when humans lived in small, isolated
tribes and hunted for their food. Their idea of music is exclusively percussive and only
valid if performed as a part of a fertility rite (although they listen to much v high brow
music themselves but only by dead people who can no longer be commercially exploited).
They loath open borders, mass communication, free markets etc. Although they have learned
how to exploit television, newspapers, books, the internet and open borders in their
mission to persuade the rest of us that we should regress. In short, they want the human
condition to be smaller and are against the 'big tent'.
Having said that, I've
also known a few musos for whom the concept of any eye contact at all would be a step in
the right direction. I take your point,
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In Search Of...
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Re: Visual communication in music
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#962245 - 06/01/12 03:52 PM
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Quote Frisonic:
Their idea of
music is exclusively percussive and only valid if performed as a part of a fertility
rite
"We can probably learn
as much from lower primates as they can from us..."
Terence Belcher, 1979
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Frisonic
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Re: Visual communication in music
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#962265 - 06/01/12 06:02 PM
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And I'm sure its worthwhile research and good stuff to know. Especially if you make dance
music. The trouble with certain anthropologists is that they seem to have adopted some
aspects of their discipline as a religion. I was just wondering, how much visual
communication, of the eyebrow twitching variety, was going on during those fertility
dances or yore and between whom... Even how meaningful it might have been? There is plenty
of good evidence to suggest that in many cases, from millennia to millennia, the
protagonists were stoned out of their minds at the time.
To be more objective,
for me music is very visual. I 'see' music as shapes and colours more than as a
mathematical construct, because that happens to be how my mind works. Visual communication
has always been very important in the performance of music. Which presumably is why high
budget acts spend so much on their stage shows, because eye contact with large audiences
is impossible and needs to be replicated. Sure, audiences have come to expect it but for
centuries, if you were playing to anything bigger than a tavern you needed to dress up
your show a bit. Thus opera. You could argue that visual communication in music has been
almost getting out of hand lately (not that I've noticed audiences complaining). What
you're after seems to be an experiment in using visual contact as a strict rule in an
experiment in minimalism? Sure, why not? That would be cool, as an experiment for the
benefit of anthropologists at least.
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