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Seccione



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Performance, RME HDSPe ExpressCard vs. USB solutions
      #964359 - 16/01/12 01:44 PM
Hi,

I'm considering getting the RME Multiface II, to be connected to mediocre laptop with HDSPe ExpressCard.

I'm currently using USB-based audio interfaces, and I'd like to know how this switch would affect performance - does RME's solution add/remove any CPU overhead compared to USB?

I have quite a many USB-devices connected simultaneously (2 x audio interface, 2 x keyboard/controller, Korg's Nano stuff, SM-Pro Audio VST host, mouse etc.), maybe letting those interfaces go would ease some burden? No?

Other option would be getting PCMCIA Firewire port, but somehow my mind is stucked to the HDSPe idea.

Opinions?


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TheChorltonWheelie



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Re: Performance, RME HDSPe ExpressCard vs. USB solutions new [Re: Seccione]
      #964364 - 16/01/12 02:02 PM
Quote Seccione:

does RME's solution add/remove any CPU overhead compared to USB?




The RME does everything onboard, it doesn't use the CPU at all in that respect - there aren't many people that'd rely on the onboard USB buss, even an expensive laptop/desktop can have a relatively cheap USB controller chip.


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Re: Performance, RME HDSPe ExpressCard vs. USB solutions new [Re: TheChorltonWheelie]
      #964372 - 16/01/12 02:29 PM
Quote TheChorltonWheelie:

there aren't many people that'd rely on the onboard USB buss, even an expensive laptop/desktop can have a relatively cheap USB controller chip.




Thanks for the reply!

But what about the ExpressCard controller? Couldn't it be of bad quality as well - or does it even matter?

I might be misinformed here, but in theory, couldn't the USB & ExpressCard controllers be integrated to same chip? (ExpressCard standard defines that it supports USB2 connectivity as well)

If this would be the case, woud the RME HDSPe still beat USB solutions?

(I'm a bit nervous 'cos my current setup is already pretty much running on edge, performance wise)


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Re: Performance, RME HDSPe ExpressCard vs. USB solutions new [Re: Seccione]
      #964383 - 16/01/12 03:02 PM
Oh, one more thing: when sending audio data trough Multiface II's multiple analogue outputs, does that affect performance compared to simple stereo out trough USB audio interface? Or is that the thing that's done 'onboard'?

When sending audio to multiple outs means that the cpu is passing multiple audio streams to ExpressCard (PCIe) buss - but on the other hand, no cpu-heavy mixing from tracks to stereo occurs.

Am I going to run out of CPU cycles if using multi outs, or am I breathing new life to my good old Fujitsu?


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Re: Performance, RME HDSPe ExpressCard vs. USB solutions new [Re: Seccione]
      #964493 - 17/01/12 12:19 AM
The RME ExpressCard system will outperform any USB soundcard. Ironically the one thing that would come close would be RME's own USB interface!
If you go for the RME system it should place no load on the computer. That shouldn't change with multiple channels, but of course if you're recording/playing back multiple channels that will put more strain on the hard drive and CPU etc...


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Re: Performance, RME HDSPe ExpressCard vs. USB solutions new [Re: Seccione]
      #964510 - 17/01/12 04:37 AM
Ok, cheers.

Just gaining the confidence here.


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Re: Performance, RME HDSPe ExpressCard vs. USB solutions new [Re: Seccione]
      #964513 - 17/01/12 06:49 AM
For anyone who might be interested: Some comparisons can be found at RME's forum (dough!)

Multiface II express card VS Fireface UC

Quote:


On my Macbook Pro 2.8 with Ableton Live I get the following OS X Kernel CPU loads for a heavy project that utilizes *all* I/Os:

HDSPe + MF2 (ExpressCard): 1%
Fireface 400 (Firewire): 1.5%
Fireface UC (USB): 2.5%





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