Mackie clearly have some sense of humour..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACo3VgXijlU&feature=youtube_gdata_playe r

I'm impressed and look forward to the SOS review!

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Go on their website. They have a 'Random mackioid of the day' feature which basically takes the mickie out of their staff one by one. Also the 1640i manual includes instructions for a 'turd polisher' haha

It's almost there. But not having remote controllable gains is a bit of a slide back in features compared to other digital mixers. I suppose the price will reflect that fact though!

I reckon eventually someone will come out with a rack box that is fully controllable by an iPad without a surface at all. It'd be great for small gigs, though for big gigs I'd still want the faders and knobs.

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It's almost there. But not having remote controllable gains is a bit of a slide back in features compared to other digital mixers. I suppose the price will reflect that fact though!

I reckon eventually someone will come out with a rack box that is fully controllable by an iPad without a surface at all. It'd be great for small gigs, though for big gigs I'd still want the faders and knobs.

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Allen and Heath iLive iDR box with their PAID (Not the free) app is pretty close from what I have heard.

Seablade

EDIT: The Line6 mixer is this as well, has it's own resistive touchscreen, but is completely iPad controllable as well.

Edited by seablade (23/01/12 04:24 PM)

The PA company I work for have just bought an Allen and Heath iLive 48 (control surface on the way next). I haven't had chance to use it but my colleague has and is highly impressed.

I'm about to replace my own desk (Soundcraft SX20, 12 mic ins is not enough anymore) but even the 16 input version of the iLive is way out of budget at over £2600. The DL1608 looks perfect for my needs, (16 inputs, min 4 aux, built in fx and an expected street price of £999). 16 ch recording to my MacBook would be nice but my only real gripe is the lack of built in Wi-Fi.) It would also mean I can sell my gates, compressors, graphics and fx and reduce the box count for my own band gigs. I am, however, slightly concerned about being an early adopter in case we end up beta testing for Mackie. Anybody have any thoughts?

Chas

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You could wait a month and demo the new Behringer x32
This will be fully controllable via iPad, has 32 ins and should list for about £1700-1800.
Martin Walker (I believe, correct me if I am wrong) has one for review at the moment seems to be very impressed (from another thread on the site).

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The PA company I work for have just bought an Allen and Heath iLive 48 (control surface on the way next). I haven't had chance to use it but my colleague has and is highly impressed.

I'm about to replace my own desk (Soundcraft SX20, 12 mic ins is not enough anymore) but even the 16 input version of the iLive is way out of budget at over £2600. The DL1608 looks perfect for my needs, (16 inputs, min 4 aux, built in fx and an expected street price of £999). 16 ch recording to my MacBook would be nice but my only real gripe is the lack of built in Wi-Fi.) It would also mean I can sell my gates, compressors, graphics and fx and reduce the box count for my own band gigs. I am, however, slightly concerned about being an early adopter in case we end up beta testing for Mackie. Anybody have any thoughts?

Chas

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Check out the GLD, its basically iLive technology that does not go up to 128 channel track count (Max 48 ch). Starts at about 4499 (+ Vat) List for a basic system.

If that's too rich for you check out the Behringer X32 on its way.

Alternatively a studio live or an analogue desk (Zed R16 - 1.5k + vat List).

Cheers

Gary

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You could wait a month and demo the new Behringer x32
This will be fully controllable via iPad, has 32 ins and should list for about £1700-1800.
Martin Walker (I believe, correct me if I am wrong) has one for review at the moment seems to be very impressed (from another thread on the site).

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It's Hugh... and yes, he was impressed at the point at which he mentioned it.

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Check out the GLD, its basically iLive technology that does not go up to 128 channel track count (Max 48 ch). Starts at about 4499 (+ Vat) List for a basic system.

If that's too rich for you check out the Behringer X32 on its way.

Alternatively a studio live or an analogue desk (Zed R16 - 1.5k + vat List).

Cheers

Gary

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Gary let me know when they update the GLD firmware to fix the major oversight of not being able to sequentially step through scenes without going through the scene management screen. As of right now I can't use the GLD for anything because of this, and that is a shame as I had two places I was looking at it for before that.

I still need to ask you questions about how the GLD and iLive systems can interface sometime as well, but moot point until the above is fixed IMO.

Seablade

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Martin Walker (I believe, correct me if I am wrong) has one for review at the moment seems to be very impressed (from another thread on the site).

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You are wrong! It was me

And I remain very impressed indeed. It is crammed with (mostly) well-thought out and genuinely useful features, it sounds very good, it is easy to use, it has the lowest latency of any digital desk I've ever used at 44.1k, it has some impressive expansion facilitites in terms of dedicated stage boxes and personal monitoring options, it undercuts all the competition by a significant margin, and it appears to be very well built -- it even comes with a three year warranty.

I looked really hard to find things to complain about, but I came up pretty short, really. I can't think of any reason not to buy the desk if you're looking for a new live sound or recording console!

Never thought I'd be saying that about a Behringer box.

There'll be a big review of it in the next issue of SOS, and a follow-up sometime later, after using it on the road for real with the stageboxes etc.

Hugh

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Cheers Hugh, couldn't be bothered to check so guessed. Seems that behringer have created a no brainer. At least it shows that their Midas aqusition was worth it.

I played a gig recently where the engineer was soundchecking with Yamaha's Stagemix app for iPad.

http://www.yamahaproaudio.com/global/en/products/peripherals/applications/ m7clstagemix/

It was a revelation at the time - I was like, "wow, that's clever" - then with this thread, and the ads in SOS, I'm thinking, this has to be the way. It's unstoppable.

Just reading the handy Soundchecking feature in this month's mag (...wow, delays on the mics to get the PA in phase with the drumkit, who knew...) and this technology must be too recent to get a mention, but the iPadable PreSonus Studiolive that's advertised in the middle looks pretty sweet. (Tried Googling it a couple of times but I can't get the page up - just bizarre broken link messages like "Presonus has died of dysentery")

http://www.presonus.com/products/detail.aspx?productid=59

I don't have one of these things. I'm starting to get jealous.

I've been remote mixing with my StudioLive for about a year now.

Love it!!

I can wander the room & mix, not to mention multitrack recording the gig as well...

Digital is certainly the way to go. I'm currently a Presonus StudioLive user, but have also had an iLive 48 and used the Soundcraft Si6.

It's very much case of determining functionality and balancing that against budget. Obviously the Presonus is at the budget end, but the sound quality is excellent and it's easy to use and fast to set up, which is handy in certain situations. What's particularly useful, apart from massive onboard facilities all in a small format desk, is the iPad access from stage.

Wondering round the stage standing next to musicians setting monitor sends and EQ is just the bees knees. Harder to use a DFA in such situations though!

Bob

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Hi Guys

While I work as a freelance SE on a range of kit, my DL1608 lust comes from my other persona as a pub band guitarist. I have a limited budget and need more than 12 mic inputs (which puts the presonus 16.0.2 and Line 6 Soundscape out of the equation). I'm also keen to lose the multicore and have the ability to mix from iPad so my amateur sound guy (singers husband, nice guy and willing to learn) can just tweak the FOH from out front during the gig after I have set it up at the soundcheck. I'd go for the iLive iDR 16 if it was a thousand pounds cheaper :-) but at under £2000 (and I have a max budget of £1200-1500) am I wrong or is the Mackie the only game in town at present? I have experience of small Mackie analogue mixers and SRM450/1501 setups which I like and I don't have a "no Beherenger/Mackie" etc attitude

Cheers

Chas

If Behringer did an X16 that may just bet the dogs doobries but the X32 is just too big

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Edited by Sam Spoons (08/07/12 08:19 PM)

As for an X16, I believe I saw on the behringer website under the S16 digital snake, (See second page of this http://www.behringer.com/assets/S16_Webbrochure.pdf) that their might be an X16 in the pipeline.

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Although the S16 was initially
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The DL1608 'Master Fader' app is now out and it looks very good indeed. It's certainly a much nicer interface than the Allen and Heath (granted it has far fewer functions to control). There some omissions, no side chain input on the compressors for example but I think it'll be another 'game changer' if the hardware lives up to expectation. When will SOS be reviewing it I wonder?

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Paul White has favourably reviewed the DL1608 in the current issue, his final words are "I want one".

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Haha, always enjoy some good humor.

Into the wayback machine, Sherman!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_SX-64

+

http://www.allen-heath.com/uk/Products/pages/ProductDetails.aspx?catId=&am p;ProductId=CMC&SubCatId=

Voila! Deja Vu! Oolala!

Around about the same time I had one of these http://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?c=88

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