lovesexy
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Which closed headphones come close to Sennheiser HD 650?
#965826 - 23/01/12 03:47 PM
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I recently bought a pair of Sennheiser HD650 headphones for mixing. They're great but make
my Dt100s sound like I'm under a ton of mud! When recording vocals it's becoming
increasingly difficult to feel inspired as the DT100s sound so poor in comparison. What
closed headphones are people going for these days? I want something that limits bleeding
but offers an inspiring sound.
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Re: Which closed headphones come close to Sennheiser HD 650?
[Re: lovesexy]
#965830 - 23/01/12 04:07 PM
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DT100s are famous for their robustness and cost.. not their quality. All the usual makers
have decent closed-backed headphones in their catalogues, but none will sound quite as
natural as the open-backed HD650s. Try reading this article for some good
suggestions of appropriate models: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan10/articles/studioheadphones.htmhugh
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Re: Which closed headphones come close to Sennheiser HD 650?
[Re: lovesexy]
#965896 - 23/01/12 08:33 PM
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I am happy with my Sennheiser HD 25s.....
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Re: Which closed headphones come close to Sennheiser HD 650?
[Re: lovesexy]
#965900 - 23/01/12 08:56 PM
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Quote lovesexy:
I recently bought
a pair of Sennheiser HD650 headphones for mixing. They're great but make my Dt100s sound
like I'm under a ton of mud! When recording vocals it's becoming increasingly difficult to
feel inspired as the DT100s sound so poor in comparison. What closed headphones are people
going for these days? I want something that limits bleeding but offers an inspiring sound.
I can't think of
anything quite like the HD650, unless perhaps the discontinued HD250.
I use,
mostly, the HD 25-1 as my closed headphones of choice nowadays.
I use the
supplied optional velour earpads instead of the standard leatherette ones.
They
certainly help in listening to detail, cut out sound well and I even use them for pleasuer
on a portable.
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Re: Which closed headphones come close to Sennheiser HD 650?
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#965908 - 23/01/12 09:10 PM
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I like the HD25-1 for the openness of the sound, relative to other closed-back models. But
my favorite closed-back model, particularly for mixing duties, is the Sony MDR7520. They
have the slight boxiness that even the best large closed-back models have, but they're
ruthless in pinpointing details. Much less sedate than the earlier MDR7509, which I don't
like so much. I've also been reasonably impressed by recent models from Shure.
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Re: Which closed headphones come close to Sennheiser HD 650?
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#966014 - 24/01/12 10:49 AM
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One man's 'sedate' is another's 'hyped and shrill'...  I still like my 7509s... but I'd certainly second the suggestion for HD25s -- not the
most comfortable headphone to wear for extended periods, but extremely good from a sound
quality point of view. Hugh
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Re: Which closed headphones come close to Sennheiser HD 650?
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#966016 - 24/01/12 11:00 AM
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Quote Hugh Robjohns:
One man's
'sedate' is another's 'hyped and shrill'...
I still like my 7509s... but I'd certainly second the suggestion for HD25s -- not the
most comfortable headphone to wear for extended periods, but extremely good from a sound
quality point of view.
Hugh
Change the earpads to the supplied velour ones and the HD 25
are a lot more comfortable.
They are rugged as well - mine are about 22 years old now.
Oh - and
Sennheiser launched lower impedance (25Ω) Silver and metalic blure versions recently at
the CES show called the Amperior.
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Re: Which closed headphones come close to Sennheiser HD 650?
[Re: Hugh Robjohns]
#966082 - 24/01/12 01:32 PM
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Quote Hugh Robjohns:
One man's
'sedate' is another's 'hyped and shrill'...
Hehe... point taken. Language always a
problem in this field. But to be fair, it was used to describe one product relative to
another, not to describe them in absolute terms.
It was less about pure
frequency response, and more that I found the bass end rather 'flabby' in the 7509s for
any material with a significant amount of bass detail in rock, pop and electronic styles.
Sounded lovely listening to some old acoustic stuff by Neil Young, though, where the
instruments weren't starti9ng and stopping so abruptly...
My impression (I've
not measured anything) is that the 7520 sound 'faster'. Hence 'sedate' for the 7509s.
I found them more ruthless in exposing nasty details when confronted with a wall
of guitar-laden rock than the HD25s. But I do still rate the HD25s very highly.
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Re: Which closed headphones come close to Sennheiser HD 650?
[Re: lovesexy]
#966084 - 24/01/12 01:37 PM
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My HD 25s are still going strong after 19 years....Tho' they have been back for repairs
required by me accidentally treading on cable and tugging the connection.
So
that's another plus, they were worth the repair fee of 40 quid ish, ie compared favourably
with buying something new for similar amount.
Of course, when I can afford
them, I will probably try some 650s....
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Re: Which closed headphones come close to Sennheiser HD 650?
[Re: lovesexy]
#966092 - 24/01/12 01:51 PM
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I use Sennheiser HD25-1 II's.
As it would appear does pretty much everyone else
that's answered...
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